How To Make A Guinness Old Fashioned With Irish Whiskey

A Guinness Old Fashioned sounds like something you order on a dare, but we decided to build it like it deserves respect. We mix Irish whiskey with Guinness, Demerara syrup, and molasses bitters, then taste it honestly: does it drink like a real Old Fashioned, or does stout steamroll everything in the glass? If you’ve ever searched for a St Patrick’s Day cocktail, an Irish whiskey cocktail recipe, or a new way to use Guinness at home, this one will spark opinions fast.

Detroit is the backdrop the whole way through. We recap parade day strategy, the unofficial rules of bouncing between bars, and why St Patrick’s Day proper isn’t always the heaviest drinking day. We also get into local traditions like the Nain Rouge, plus the everyday chaos of social media changes and the kind of teaching stories that make you wonder how schools function at all.

Then we pour something we actually savor: Redbreast Lustau Edition, finished in sherry casks. We dig into tasting notes like dark fruit, marzipan, spice, and oak, and talk about how sherry cask finishing can make Irish whiskey feel deeper without turning it into something unrecognizable. And because we can’t resist, we toss out trivia to test who’s really listening, from Madonna chart history to a wild Detroit fact that stops the room.

If you like whiskey tasting, Detroit stories, and the kind of conversation that wanders from cocktails to culture without losing the thread, hit play. Subscribe, share it with a friend who loves Guinness, and leave a review with your verdict: Guinness Old Fashioned yes or no?

Transcript

Welcome To Happy Hour

Jamie Flanagan 0:08

I said hey hey welcome to the man cave happy hour I said hey hey welcome to the man cave happy hour we're gonna drink a fine whiskey and smoke a really fine cigar it is time for happy hour it is the man cave oh happy hour oh happy whiskey oh here we go whiskey jump cigars spirits and the stories that go along with it I'm Jamie O'Flanagan oh boy it really actually is yeah I'm uh then that makes me August McGitch like uh you know what Matt Fox you know Matty O'Fox Matty O' Matty O'Fox yes that's me that that was good did you say August McGitch like I like that I like that all right I just want to make sure I heard that right so no it's funny though my grandfather when he came over from Ireland it's like his name is spelled like four different ways it's like between his birth certificate and his Alice Island and the marriage certificate and his work papers and it just the it's it's spelled different you know sometimes there's an I sometimes doubling up an N and it's like it's crazy town it's and it there's an O flannagan on a couple of them so uh actually literally not a disparaging holiday thing it's uh it really there's really an O on some of them back there along the dusty trail back to the islands so but today we are doing an interesting shot oh it's a cocktail cocktail we're doing a cocktail I should go get the ice yeah it was we're doing a cocktail that involves uh some Irish whiskey some Guinness and bitters bitters we have not messed with on this show before these different kinds of uh simple syrups is this an Irish old fashioned is that it's a it's a Guinness old fashioned Guinness old fashioned all right so we're gonna be doing that coming up uh on on the show yeah uh but uh we gotta talk about the Academy Awards yeah no I didn't watch them I have nothing to talk about I have no idea he who even was up but you said the vampire movie yes and I haven't seen it which I really Michael B.

August Gitshlag 2:22

Jordan won for best actor for his uh portrayal in Sinners okay so he played two two uh characters twin brothers in the movie and he just just the chops on that guy just incredible he's been around he's been a lead actor for a long time Friday night lights man what's that Friday night lights and commit to Michigan State yep right right right but yeah he got best best actor and then uh best actress was the young lady from Hamnet yeah they were gonna have they were calling for that they were calling for that yes and then uh best director was the guy that that one lousy day movie Paul I'm not it was the Leo one oh one battle after another one one battle after another yeah one lousy day so that one for uh best uh did you watch that movie no I did not it is it was I haven't seen any of those all right well uh one battle after another was a two was a two two sitter we had to do it first hour and a half one day oh yeah second hour and a half the next day why is that it's is long is it long all right yeah Leo plays a good neurotic character it's it's all over the map the Sean Penn character I thought was a cartoon I did not like it I did not think he should have won right he wasn't even there I thought he had a stupid character name I thought everything about it was just kind of too much yeah he wasn't even there to accept his award for best supporting he beat out Benicio del Toro you know and just like man yeah well it's his third one right I think so I think Facebook is changing crap again yeah it was it was really tough for me to bring that up I just I just hit uh where we were live can I can and then the video came up that we're live so we shared that you might have been sharing the Yezhi one.

Social Media Chaos And Sponsors

Matt Fox 3:59

I did share the Yeshi one on accident.

Detroit St Patrick’s Parade Rituals

Jamie Flanagan 4:01

I know it was making me do that it was quite can I can I tell you that social media is uh makes me look crazy. Yeah go ahead it makes me look crazy does it yeah can we complain about women now not safely now if you want to get banned again tread tread lightly young man oh yeah holy crap I had an afternoon I think we're all my kiss me I'm German gear and my German baseball hat to protest all the green that I know I'd be prompted with yeah well you know I mean you know but they you gotta you gotta give a little bit because you know the show is brought to you by my Irish radio and oh is it now it is oh you fucking did it now Flanagan I'll take you on better knuckles and the bottom of the boat this is so culturally disparaging it is entirely culturally but uh yeah my Irishradio.com is uh 24-7 Irish music uh station there actually is a guy I got a guy doing a show it's that that's actually worth a listen so but I mean the stage if you like Irish music it runs 247 and you know me whatever I am whatever but this guy Tony Davrin and he's he was born in Hollywood Limerick there's a Hollywood in Ireland there's a Hollywood in Ireland okay I don't know if it's Limerick or not right but it but there's a Hollywood in Ireland so he's born Hollywood Ireland and musician so he you know sorry hit the road ended up touring with River Dance really and uh yeah so he was one of the the the key players in the early River Dance and he met uh his wife who was the first american actress dancer to be uh a lead so she was the first and he married her and uh now they leave and live in Louisiana he does this uh welcome kind stranger my irish radio okay but he's really really good it's like he's like he's like really good he's like a professional is that what you're saying yeah I mean he's clowns he plans his show he's got a theme the songs are really good yeah decidedly decidedly worth uh listen my irish radio.com and then there's links on mixed cloud to uh repeats of it so yeah he's good it's I'm I'm meeting some cool people doing that meeting cool people doing the podcast stuff in general who do I want Matt remember when we used to be his passion project when it was me and you remember the good old days when we were the ones that were loved well we've said now we've succeeded now he's moving on to greener pastures he used to go save someone else now he's no we ain't no motor city hypnosis with 10 000 downloads no we're not uh so he yeah he just hit the 10 000 download mark and well you know he travels around the world and and gives talks and promotes it you know and it's good for him yeah yep yep I'm happy to be a part of that this is the quietest this studio's been for one of our shows in months just us three yeah not that I don't like looking into your eyes gentlemen but usually there's that fourth set of eyes it's kind of a just another voiceover you know right it's staring at me someone we've had people in here I like it when it's just it's so it's cue cue the music the boys are back in town smoking in the boy oh not that so yeah so yesterday was the parade turned out to be a a cold yet uh no it wasn't it was it was 60 degrees it was it was 50 to 60 it I never took my jacket off I just wore a hoodie and a one of my little vests and a hoodie it got very nice for the parade St.

August Gitshlag 7:27

I wore my parade in Detroit oversized my Irish radio and you have the button on it as you said I have the button on and absolutely had it on there the whole day. Yeah we made our rounds had a little breakfast of champions at the at the at the Norwalk estate and then went to Nancy Whiskey's and to the Norwalk Estate.

Matt Fox 7:41

Yeah Nancy Whiskey to Lagerhouse and then to last chance what I hear you say is one of each yeah something like that.

August Gitshlag 7:51

We had a back at Lagerhouse I believe well how was the parade was a parade uh you know it's it's a huge parade yeah it's a everybody and their brothers in that damn parade yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm like oh look it's the Lexington bar they're not Irish I'll go give Dave and Jennifer a hug because they're walking past me okay like all right whatever hey another bar in there you know oh another group there was yeah just busloads of people everywhere so tents up by at some of the bars and what have you uh Nemo said they're big tent money lagger house is a huge outdoor area but it had no tent yeah it wasn't wet I mean it never rained it was the weather was good okay yeah we had a good time we ubered in we ubered out you know I I made a commitment this year that I'm a Murphy's guy okay once again I'm a Murphy's Irish style guy not gonna not gonna knock the Murphys I I really enjoy it I I that's what I started with that's what I went with if it was an option for the rest of the day stick with you you you have to stay in your lane I think it's a little creamier it's a little more chocolatey or vanilla whichever way you want to put it depending on how you're you know sustaining doesn't have that coffee roast that I get out of Guinness sometimes I don't care for it's I'm not a coffee drinker. Right so but those are like the only two options I was surprised how much Murphy's I saw yesterday. Okay.

Jamie Flanagan 8:56

Like the the distributor must have been really pushing it out I'm kind of lusting after Murphy's right about now.

Matt Fox 9:02

Well that's not my real name okay that's a stage name uh yeah you say McLusty is that your name yeah it sounds like McSemy McDreamy back in the day of ER or whatever.

Jamie Flanagan 9:16

Yeah but we had the Punchkey day we got all our Polish on and so yeah this week is the Irish on the high holy holidays of Detroit drunken obligation you throw a little DCFC opening day in I threw that in there this year yes because it was an obligation uh then we got a then we got a uh nain rouge coming up well St. Patrick's Day proper tomorrow tomorrow yes the Nane Rouge which is a Detroit thing St.

August Gitshlag 9:37

Patrick's Day proper has never been my big drinking day it's if if I did it it was the parade. I did one or the other you know it's like it's messy and sloppy I think we do this enough that I'm not too worried about another reason.

Jamie Flanagan 9:49

Listen out yeah so it it's uh but we'll probably hit a couple of pubs tomorrow.

August Gitshlag 9:55

We want to do the Cadu Cafe ML Elric I will be on Kedju Cafe at Cadju Cafe with uh Darcy McConnell old friend of both of ours we both ml and I know Darcy from past lives and um she's wonderful she was a uh Gross Point Park City Councilman for a while she's a journalist is he streaming live or is he just recording or is he not recording he's just setting up shop and doing a live show in the studio in the bar. Okay. So I texted him I go well you know Flanagan might come with a microphone he goes have him record it we'll both run it it'll be a bonus episode of my show we'll call it a bonus episode of your show okay if you're we'll if you're willing to share the audio I'm like let's see how it comes out yeah there's three of us up there with one mic and people yelling out trivia answers it might not be what quite what we think it is putting a mic by the speaker though because we'll all be mic'd okay the three of us will be mic'd and they'll have a mic out in the crowd all right which probably cat will probably run around and hand that to people who are answering that'll be fun so but it's a trivia thing and just ML just having fun.

Building The Guinness Old Fashioned

Jamie Flanagan 10:47

Yeah it's uh it's a little east side screw around thing uh Rutherford John the owner of uh Cad you asked him to do it a couple years ago he's called me in the last three times to be honor with him and so it just got a good look well when Rutherford took it over we did a behind the bar with Zim's with we did there so that was fun we did a podcast there with him well we did the one in the back lanes too and then we did one during the during the feather bowling and he's uh he he is quite the musician too yeah that's some pretty astounding so yeah all right so we'll be there tomorrow for the proper St. Patrick's day noon to 230 and then no 1230 to 23 to two we mentioned the name Rouge right yes which is a a Detroit thing people not in Metro Detroit it is Detroit has had a little bit of bum luck burnt to the ground had some other troubles and they they they you know back then they was the big fire that so they would blame it on things right and so they saw that little that little red thing a kid or something running away from the stockyard where the the the where it all started so that was that because the little red devil the name rouge the little red devil so every day every year on uh nay and rouge day started a couple of drunk guys walking out of cast cafe saying we're gonna banish the devil back into the into the river and one of them is my good friend Francis and they also walk it down cast and drunk and made it into a thing. Yeah so I've been to a few of them I think there's been about 20 one like 19 eighteen who they who uh banished uh the lions bad luck and we've been doing fairly well now that would have been the Manning the Manning and uh Jeff Daniels yeah it was Jeff Daniels right Jeff Daniels they've banned they they they they they took the mojo out and we got our mojo back ish ish still haven't gone all the way but uh ish I'm gonna tell you gentlemen I've been kind of fearing this cocktail it's been why is that uh Guinness old fashioned I mean putting beer in your beer and whiskey together with some syrup and some molasses bitters and all right well let's stir in some with our our nice uh chicken uh we got chicken cock oh well you can get us banned that's fine yeah I didn't I didn't publish I said uh you didn't publish that one I didn't I just the episode with chicken cock whiskey I it it keeps on getting it keeps getting triggered it's like why did I get another message from Facebook and I'm like oh because that shenanigans is still up there I really got to take it down that's exactly what you need that is that is that's exactly exactly what you want give me that uh there Guinness crack the Guinness carefully ready ready oh yeah oh yeah oh that's a good one that's that's a good that's good nice and cold it's nice and cold yeah because we now have a refrigerator in the man cave happy hour suite of the podcast your voice studios so it does it does call for one ounce for the cocktail but I'm gonna make I'm gonna do three oh thanks for being generous making us one too all right look I I know I get uncomfortable when Matt anyone but make but me makes the drinks I get a little nervous all right so three ounces of the Guinness three ounces of Guinness so one ounce of the Guinness on ice who's ever seen that before I know that's I call that Polish beer like when you put beer ice in your beer I call that the hamp tramic beer I would always call that the hamp dramatic beer because it's uh one and a half it's hot down in the in the ham town man you didn't have air conditioning down there when we were down there my lovely uh partner today I'm walking out of the house and I noticed the air conditioning's on oh I'm like what the hell today yeah well because she was cooking uh and the house got hot yeah and she went to just turn the heat down and accidentally turn the air conditioning on to turn the heat down was not what she intended to do.

August Gitshlag 14:14

But I walk out and I see that big I'm hearing this thing what's it I go it's the fan I go oh my gosh you turn the air conditioning on wow so I took that because I took care of that I go it was a better way we just turn everything off and it'll get cooler.

Jamie Flanagan 14:24

All right so it you one ounce of Guinness and then it count calls for one and a half ounces of whiskey iron whiskey one and a half ounces so you multiply that times three that's 4.5 all right there you go so that's that's two uh that's two to the rim wow that's that was i it was to the rim i think we're gonna be okay with this yeah so four you need four and a half yeah all right so that that's that's like one and a quarter all right I'm just I'm messing with I think we're gonna be okay like I said we're gonna be fine it's obviously like I don't want I don't know I don't know that the perfect proportions here are really gonna make a difference in this having tennis and but it calls for some very precise some accessories yes things that we uh an accessory laden uh location here and have all our sweet these are syrups and things that I've never seen before right so it calls for the the motion for for molasses bitters and a demira syrup yeah what do we know about demira syrup anything dated in college it's well it's the brown sugar right uh the demara sugar and that people people when they make old fashioned sometimes they get the Demera sugar cubes yeah right okay and that's how you do it you throw the sugar cube in the brown sugar sugar cube and then you hit it with the bitters and then you muddle that okay and then just to kind of break down the sugar cube a little bit more so it breaks down and then you're gonna stir because you you don't get as much of a if you were shaking it you it would it would dissolve a little bit more.

Matt Fox 15:58

Right so yeah you muddle it with the bitters but it it calls for one stir spoon of the Demira beer yeah so that's like an eighth that's like a stir spoon is like an eighth of an ounce.

Jamie Flanagan 16:11

Yeah yeah you're looking at teaspoons I'm just gonna do one two there you go there you go three there you go see there you go and then and then it calls for and then oh my molasses bitters something I have never never explained well because Guinness has that uh people say Guinness has a molasses profile to it okay so it's okay I'm gonna do I'm gonna do nine hits of bitters into this nine oh do nine hits of anything you're gonna be in trouble buddy five six seven eight nine ten so Demera sugar is minimally refined large grained cane sugar with a light brown color and a crunchy texture subtle molasses or caramel flavor from Guyana formerly Demerera you give it a stir and then what did you call these dehydrated oranges when you walked in August dehydrated oranges no you had a funky name for them I didn't yeah you said something you're funny you said something very funny you did well it was like I wasn't here for it let's get it for the real man you need your fans are dying for that quip your fans are dying for that one quip fucking scotch yeah picked that out we didn't I know I love that I didn't do last week's show I'm like I I don't know what I've been doing in the last seven days I didn't I didn't do anything with last week's show well I think we've a port top that you can what are we doing?

Tasting Notes And Whiskey Debate

August Gitshlag 17:46

Oh he's putting it into the the strainer instead of putting the lid just over the yeah we're just doing it this way that's right more laundry for me it is more laundry yes all right pouring those in there and then we got our nice rocks glasses from our glassware sponsor firebird tech had a good time with Tony yesterday had a good time had a had a beer and a hug and a beer with Tony and Owen mm-hmm mm-hmm our buddies from Firebird so now we have just cubed ice in there but it calls for one one big ass cube one big large square cube and then you lay the dried lay the dried apertify what what are the did you orange on top of it orange just dead oranges it's just dead oranges all they are sticking in there is that doesn't matter there it is I gotta get a picture of that that looks pretty it look it looks good it looks like it's dark you know but that's because it's got Guinness in it and I get so many things across my feed it just came across that's a thing it usually patrick's you get uh you get some stuff you know yeah I was just scrolling and that just happened to come across and I'm like oh that looks interesting so that's why I shared it figured we can give it a shot let's get this bad boy here bad boy bad boy what you're just using the upside down yes he is it's not it's not even working I'm screwing around taking pictures you guys yeah it's like really great techniques for great radio yeah listening to you take pictures click click it tastes exactly as I expected it to I'm not mad no I'm not I'm not grossed out you're not doing it for a baby shower no well maybe maybe for the duper party a little more manly no I would drink this if I saw this on a menu I would order it this isn't oh you're dead to me no you wouldn't no is it too poopy is it poopy it's just Guinnessy and if I want an old fashioned I want a goddamn old fashioned Guinness I'll drink Guinness I'll drink them side by side that's fair I don't know if I want to do them together I mean it's just something different too it's got a sweetness I don't hate it no I don't hate it either there's a molasses to it I mean that's the right the right ingredients are in it yeah you know to make it I mean I think I think it was mixed well it's gotta be tough it was masterly mixed I think it's tough to cut the Guinness dryness and and the the the bitterness that's why they they went with these ingredients the molasses and the the the morera yeah I'm I'm really curious what if we didn't use Jameson what if we used a a stronger Irish whiskey like what you got bush you got bush mills out there you could potentially use I don't know what is stronger what is there's nothing stronger there's no they don't do hundreds there's nothing there's yeah there's nothing stronger what about that red breast you know but it it's not stronger it's just a different flavor it's a different that's what I'm getting at is the flavor of the whiskey because no I think it's it I think you lose whatever whiskey you put in this into the in the all the sweet in the Guinness Guinnessness anyway. Yeah like I don't taste any whiskey character that's filler for the cocktail.

Jamie Flanagan 20:55

Yeah I don't taste any whiskey profile in this at all no I would actually whiskey in this is basically a splash of soda yeah yeah everything's lost and all those I mean Guinness is a is a flavor man it's it's yeah it's a thing it's an amplified it's an amplified Guinness yeah yeah it is with it's an amplified boozy it's an amplified boozy Guinness take your Guinness and turnt it up it's a boozy Guinness I'm not mad at it at all yeah no I would say I would if I would order one on a on a menu I wouldn't order I might not order two but I would order I would order one on a menu I don't know if I ordered one and this is what it tastes like I'd probably not get another one I can tell you that yeah there's that if you like Guinness because I'm like I'm doing doing old fashioned but I'm I don't know what a Guinness kind of thing.

Matt Fox 21:39

I'm with you if you're a Guinness fan and you want to move around with your Guinness and such a purist sure then you know if I'm good on a high powered my Irish radio meeting and we're there discussing oh flannagan what are we discussing now

Jamie Flanagan 22:02

Timmy, my my friend Tim Carr left his hat here like a year and a half ago, and it's like it's been sitting up there, and I was like, I saw it up there today. I was like, Oh, I'm because I might see him tomorrow for St. Patrick's Day. And I pulled it down, so I was like, I'm gonna give him because if I don't pull it down off the shelf, I wouldn't uh and then I'm like, oh, wait a second, August is gonna have his hat because we're so close, and he's gonna do that, so we'll pull out the dueling.

Matt Fox 22:27

You said that. I was just sitting back waiting for it to happen. Boss and skelly caps.

Jamie Flanagan 22:30

Oh my god, I told man. I said I have I gotta hide it over here. So he doesn't see it, kind of like you and your airplane bottle. We gotta we gotta hide it to make sure that's good. Uh you know, see it.

Matt Fox 22:42

Oh well, thank you for uh indulging me, fellas. Um get us old fashioned, you know.

Cocktail Nerd Talk And Bar Problems

August Gitshlag 22:48

You know, it's a first time, and it's not a lot of first times, you know. It's uh tastes something new, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 22:53

Well, and I was looking for because you love the French 75, the best cocktails superior, and then there's the there's one called the Irish 75. We we we saw that, right? Uh, did I said that?

August Gitshlag 23:03

Well, someone had one on the on our menu with cognac, and it called for Midori, right?

Jamie Flanagan 23:08

Because to make it green. Oh, yeah, you gotta be. That was the thing.

August Gitshlag 23:12

My problem was my problem with that was then you gotta get a whole bottle of that green shit that's never gonna get used, and you can't buy it in airline bottles or in pints or half pints. No, so if you could find a half pint of Midori, I'd make that drink. I look, but I ain't gonna sit here with a whole bottle of that melon liqueur crap, it'll never get used for anything. You have to dump it in the uh, you know.

Matt Fox 23:29

That's a lot of uh French 75s, right?

Jamie Flanagan 23:32

Yeah, and it calls for 0.25 on an ounce. You're like, yeah, so we're making three of them, it's not even an ounce, right? And you're buying 25, you know, you because you get you get about you get about 25 pores out of a bottle, 25, 26 pores, uh, one ounce pores out of a lot. That's another bottle that'll sit there on that shelf forever, taking up space. That's a bottle. Well, I'm building a bar in my garage, so it might be one there for the next to the next to the uh Galiano, never be drank, and the triple sec that rarely gets touched, and yeah, the carousel cacao.

August Gitshlag 24:05

Well, I did bring something else. I I every year when my buddies come over, I grab a bottle of something nice. I go to my party store in town. So you tricked me that I know has things on their shelf that are tight that are priced before COVID because they have like a whole like shelf going around the whole top of the place, and that stuff's not updated. They just dump stuff that you only have a single bottle up there. So it sits up there, and then you pull it down to get what you get. So I'd actually use my phone and zoomed in and said, Oh, I see that price is a little bit cheaper. So it's almost on sale. This is the red breast aged in Sherry French Sherry Cask, the Lustao.

Jamie Flanagan 24:37

We've been on a sherry cask. Yeah, we have been.

August Gitshlag 24:40

Well, and we've had some innocent luck with the sherry casks. Dude, I like how it mellows the stuff out. It makes Irish whiskey tolerable. So now I had Talamore Dew in the Caribbean rum cast. I love that. I drank that.

Jamie Flanagan 24:55

And when I had it the first time, I didn't like it.

August Gitshlag 24:56

I loved it. We went that got us through COVID. Me and Barry sitting on a porch outside six feet across from each other, drinking that stuff back and forth.

Jamie Flanagan 25:03

You said that, and I'm like, why did I not like it? And I went back to it and I didn't not enjoy it as much as I enjoyed it. All right, and and you can't find it anymore. So you gotta be a little dusty bottle if you find it. The power of the suggestion. Oh, really? It's not around anymore. Yeah. I because I was looking for a telemore dew because I figured, oh, well, you know, we're mixing. I was gonna get a telamore dew, the the the the carafe one, right? Oh, the telemore dew comes in the it's like a ceramic half green, half white.

August Gitshlag 25:32

I should say this was so old that when I went to take the cork out, the cork busted. Oh, did it? It was dry. It was dry.

Matt Fox 25:36

I was curious about the uh purple cork that you got. Purple silicone in there.

August Gitshlag 25:40

Yeah, it it cracked right up.

Matt Fox 25:41

Actually, it actually adds something to the bottle. Does it? Yeah.

August Gitshlag 25:45

Oh little guys. Oh, there they are.

Matt Fox 25:47

There they are. Neat. And uh have you guys had this before? Red breast, yes. That I figured big year and no. Here you go, Jamie. Pass it on. And this is finished finished in sherry casks. Is that correct?

August Gitshlag 26:00

Yes, yes, it is. I mean, remember getting into Big Tony's stash over there, yeah. Of all his 12s and 15s and things like that. Now they had a 15 that they wanted about another 15 bucks for, still under 100 bucks. Yeah, which I thought was was low. So where were you at on this? I paid 75 dollars for it.

Jamie Flanagan 26:18

Okay, wow, that's over your you're usually at a 50$50 ceiling. Holiday on holiday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

August Gitshlag 26:24

This is just a holiday bottle. This will last me a while because I don't I don't drink a lot of Irish. So what does Lestow edition mean?

Matt Fox 26:30

It says Lestau edition. L-U-S-T-A-U Lestau edition. I didn't bring the box, I probably should have. That's all right.

Jamie Flanagan 26:39

Well, there's a lot of nose on that, bad boy.

Matt Fox 26:41

Yeah, there's a there's a lot of nose.

Jamie Flanagan 26:43

There's a lot of nose.

August Gitshlag 26:46

Yeah, I'm just curious what the last it's the Iberian series.

Matt Fox 26:50

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, the nose on this man is it definitely stands out, the nose.

August Gitshlag 27:00

We're looking at, yes, rich infusion of dark fruits, prunes, dates, and figs with licorice, marzipan, toasted oak, and aromatic spices. A lot of dark fruits. And the contribution of fresh Spanish oak.

Matt Fox 27:17

Like Spanish oak. Like the dark plum. You know, that there's a lot of dark fruits going on. He said figs, dance.

Jamie Flanagan 27:25

And for an Irish whiskey, it's dark. For an Irish whiskey, it's got some color to it. It's got some color to it. Yeah.

Matt Fox 27:32

Looks like I'm almost gonna chew on it so dark.

August Gitshlag 27:34

Yeah, this is a total wine. They have it at$86.99. That total wine.

Matt Fox 27:45

That is very oh yeah. It is, you know what? It hits you that the on the palate, it is not what you get on the nose. It is completely very different.

Jamie Flanagan 27:55

It jumped, it jumped to the roof of my mouth, but the back of the roof of my mouth. It didn't, it t the tip of my tongue and the back of the roof of my mouth. It hits for me.

August Gitshlag 28:08

Yeah, this is uh that's a fascinating flavor.

Jamie Flanagan 28:11

It's a little on the tip of the tongue, there's a little spicy thing going on, and on the roof of mouth, there's a molasses. You know, and plus we just had these like shenanigans too. So I might have some of that Samara uh lingering on my palate, but we should have a sippy sip of water.

August Gitshlag 28:28

All I get was the marzipan.

unknown 28:30

Kidding.

August Gitshlag 28:31

Marza pan. That was interesting.

Matt Fox 28:35

At first, it was like I almost I almost felt like I was, and you're gonna love this. I felt like I was drinking a scotch at first. Um that when it coated, when it started to coat, I'm like, yes, that is definitely whiskey. But that you get that share, you get that dark fruit, you get that just layers over over the back of your little smoke.

Jamie Flanagan 28:54

I am so susceptible to suggestions.

Matt Fox 28:57

Yeah, the power of persuasion compels you.

August Gitshlag 29:03

No, that's I I would I get the the prune in the apricot. I just get different fruits. Now I got good for you. At your age, prune a lot of things. That's good for you. Yeah, it's good for you.

Teaching Life And The Blind Sub

Jamie Flanagan 29:14

At my age, holy smokes. I just got called out. Just a just a just a lot, you did. 50 school days left until that's it, buddy. Countdowns on.

Matt Fox 29:28

I see it. Are you are you gonna tattoo one? Yes, sketch them off, temporary tattoo.

August Gitshlag 29:36

54 days, not that anyone's counting.

Matt Fox 29:39

It's like having a stitch removed. Do they know you're calling in sick?

August Gitshlag 29:44

Are you starting to get sniffly right now for tomorrow?

Jamie Flanagan 29:46

Oh, yeah, I put I put it in the I put it in the machine. Oh, okay. It's all yeah. And you get because you get personal days every year with the contractually, we get personal days and sick days. And if you don't use your personal days, they roll over into sick days. You know, and you you store them in and you get them, keep them for the next year, and you can bank up to 120 hours, yeah. 120 days, 120 days. I can bank up to the house. Holy sniper done for the year now. And um, I you know, and so I perpetually have a baby and I, you know, knock on wood. Luckily, I've been pretty darn healthy. Yeah, and my classes, it's you know, some it's harder not to be there because you gotta sit down, you gotta type up, you gotta type up these extensive lesson plans that the the some horrible subs gonna come in and just not look at and whatever. You gotta just stay seats, and then they don't do anything. Yeah, right. I'm lucky I got a friend of mine who is actually retired from my school and she subs again, and so she grabs all my gigs, and so she's subbing for me. So why would you do that to her? She'll no no.

Matt Fox 30:56

You know how easy he he makes her job.

Jamie Flanagan 30:58

No, but we've had some we've had some bad subs. Literally, did I tell you about the the worst sub? No high school substitute teacher on the it was awesome. What no, what my other thing is. What what does what does a high what does a substitute teacher have to do? Just take attendance. Take attendance. You have to go in and you have to what hit the play button.

August Gitshlag 31:17

Hit the play button. Yeah, hit the play button. Take a ten take attendance.

Jamie Flanagan 31:20

Yeah, and what do you need to do to take attendance? Call names call the role. Call names, sure. Or who's all right? I'm trying to roll it back to the basic of basic of basic thing. Yeah, you gotta show up and you gotta be able to talk. See see the kids, right?

August Gitshlag 31:38

You could show up. You had a blind substitute? Swear to God. No, really, swear to god today, and it's a visual arts class.

Jamie Flanagan 31:53

I I shit you not. This guy, not just kind of blind, not just legally blind, straight up blind. What is the job? Watch the kids. That's all you gotta do. Well, you gotta sit there for an hour, watch the kids. They wait, he's blind.

August Gitshlag 32:12

You can't watch the kids. Remember when Ray from Ray's Music Exchange took the shot at that kid who was trying to steal the guitar? He knew.

Jamie Flanagan 32:19

He knew. Oh my god, oh my god, get out of here. Oh, so it's like they're like, so they they're like, What the hell do we do? And so they paired him like uh buddied him up with a hall monitor who like escorted him around the building to get him to and from, and so they called the the because it's all outsourced now, it's all subconscious, right? Right, right. So they go there like, what the hell? And then he came back again, and so we they had him sit in the in-house room, you know, the in-house detention room with the in-house detention person, and what we would have done with a blind detention monitor. But you know, I mean, but I it's like you're you what what is the job? Watch the kids. Uh-huh. It's it would just it struck me as just crazy tough. Yeah, uh it's fun, you know. So that's that's the world of subconscious. 54 more days. 54 more days, just 54. That's why I got my girl. She's subbing for me tomorrow, and they'll they'll turn in their work, and that's fun. So it's but they're watching, they're watching some Dr. Seuss. I got them, I got them hooked up with some Dr. Seuss. Is it the Mike? Is it kindergarten class you're teaching now?

Matt Fox 33:24

Is it is it the Mike Myers? Is it Mike Myers Dr. Seuss?

Jamie Flanagan 33:29

We're kicking off. It's it's it's the opener, right? It's jazzy. We're getting into so we're gonna they're gonna read Animal Farm and it's allegory. And so here the sneches, it's allegory. Well, here's an allegory. This is an example of allegory, it's English 12. And then this novel that you're about to read is gonna be another longer allegory. Uh so we just fire them up with some snitches, and it gives me a chance to grade a couple things while they're watching the 12-minute snitches. Will you do me a favor and I'm gonna challenge you?

Matt Fox 33:57

Will you have them read Catcher in the Rye for your last assignment?

Jamie Flanagan 34:00

I got this. Didn't they read it in the 10th grade?

Matt Fox 34:02

Yeah, that is that's a illegal, but it's a it's an illegal book now. No, it's not no, it's not, it's banned, isn't it?

August Gitshlag 34:07

No, it's not. It's everyone has it. Yeah, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan 34:11

So is Anne Frank's diary. Well, yeah, the dirty one. Because there's because there's the bridge one where she talks about, you know. Oh, okay. Rubbing one out pretty much. So they're like, Yeah, don't have the rubbing one out one in the elementary school. But uh, you know, so yeah, but no, yeah. We're uh my my school is pretty cool about that, about not banning stuff, yeah. And all right things, but good, you know, as as long as the sub can uh see, I see clearly now.

Trivia Time Madonna And Detroit

August Gitshlag 34:40

All right, too much time on the blind sub. Okay, let's go. Uh we're gonna we're gonna lose our ADA credentials here. Right. Are we gonna get banned again? Yeah, I know. Chicken cock. So I want to see if anyone listens to the show. So tomorrow, I'm gonna give you one of the two of the crit one or two of the trivia questions for tomorrow. Oh and see if you guys can answer them here. And then if they'll get the answer and they'll know that we'll know who listens if somebody yells it out right away.

Jamie Flanagan 35:06

Uh yeah. So you can't use your phone. Isn't there another one?

August Gitshlag 35:08

Oh, we're not gonna be that hard about it, but um, one of them's a music question. I think this will be fun for you too, okay? All right. So we all know that like a virgin propelled Madonna to number one. She was does a first number one hit and then made her go over the edge. She had two top ten hits before that. Ah which two songs? One hit ten, one hit four. Material girl.

Jamie Flanagan 35:29

Borderline?

August Gitshlag 35:30

Borderline is the one that hit number ten. That was the first one.

Jamie Flanagan 35:32

All right.

August Gitshlag 35:33

Material girl? Nope. Not before that was not before.

Jamie Flanagan 35:36

No, dress me up with my love.

August Gitshlag 35:37

That was not before that's like a version.

Jamie Flanagan 35:38

That's good. That's a good song. That's way after. That's decades back. Borderline. This is 1983. Borderline. What else? I like borderline. Borderline rattling through my brain right now.

August Gitshlag 35:51

Oh, went to lose my mind.

Jamie Flanagan 35:54

I love L. All right. What was it? What was it?

August Gitshlag 35:56

So the there's the you get you're done. You've given up 1983, Madonna. It's borderline, then all the way to number four.

Jamie Flanagan 36:03

Kiss me all over. No, that's uh that's not a good thing.

August Gitshlag 36:04

Lucky star.

Matt Fox 36:05

Oh, yeah.

August Gitshlag 36:06

Lucky started.

Matt Fox 36:08

You should be my lucky star. That went to number four.

August Gitshlag 36:12

And that was the B side to holiday. Ah went number four.

Matt Fox 36:15

Holiday.

August Gitshlag 36:16

Yeah.

Matt Fox 36:16

Holiday.

August Gitshlag 36:17

Oh, did holiday hit anything? I think it's Europe bigger.

Matt Fox 36:20

Celebrate.

August Gitshlag 36:21

It did hit it after. Yeah. Everyone sort of going back to everything before and finding that that they like that song on the other side of the virgin. Lucky star.

Jamie Flanagan 36:29

Burn it up. That uh dress me up. That's why out of out of all the songs.

Matt Fox 36:33

But wait, that's my that's she's not from Michigan, August. That's not Detroit related. She's from Rochester. I know she is.

Jamie Flanagan 36:39

Oh, Rochester.

Matt Fox 36:41

Yeah, she's a Rochester girl. Rochester girl. No, not my school.

Jamie Flanagan 36:43

Oh, yeah, yeah. Different Rochester. Different, right? You're you're talking about. Are you a Rochester boy, though?

Matt Fox 36:48

I was an Auburn Hills boy.

Jamie Flanagan 36:49

Auburn Hills.

Matt Fox 36:50

Yes, I was an Auburn Hills boy.

Jamie Flanagan 36:51

All right. And who's the actor that went to your school?

Matt Fox 36:54

Well, at Athens in Troy, it was Martin Klebba. Martin. The little guy, the little person from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

August Gitshlag 37:01

Oh, I thought the dude from uh Walking Dead went there too.

Matt Fox 37:04

The Korean guy. Oh no, he's a gross point guy. Oh, I thought he was Troy. No, he's a Gross Point kid. His family owns the stores in the center. As was Booger in Revenge of the Nerds. Oh, was he a Gross Point guy? Oh, yeah.

August Gitshlag 37:14

Oh yeah, he's a Wayne State grad.

Jamie Flanagan 37:16

Really?

August Gitshlag 37:16

Absolutely. Along with the guy that was in all the Heidi Fleist stuff, the dude from Heat. You know the Wayne State grad. It was in uh saving private Ryan. He what's his name? Shit. It's gonna kill me. I'll wake up in the middle of the night with it. Anyway, Tom Sizemore. Ah, yeah. Private Dan.

unknown 37:34

Yeah.

August Gitshlag 37:34

So the other one I'll give you is my favorite one. Your trivia? Your favorite trivia? Yeah. In 1980, the city of Detroit gave the key to the city to this foreign dictator. Oh 1980. 1980?

Jamie Flanagan 37:49

I was six. Let's see. Pope John Paul II. A dictator? Nothing. Well, well, you know.

August Gitshlag 38:00

Depends on how you talk.

Jamie Flanagan 38:01

Says what he says goes.

August Gitshlag 38:02

Are you in Northern Ireland?

Matt Fox 38:04

There's other Saddam Hussein.

Jamie Flanagan 38:07

Yes. Holy shiitake mushrooms.

August Gitshlag 38:10

Really? Yes. They gave Saddam Hussein. He donated like$100,000 to a Keldean church on the east side, right on a seven mile and Woodward area over there. And that was back during the Iran-Iraq war where we're giving them all the time. Was that Coleman Young? Of course. Coleman A. Young? Yeah. Saddam Hussein. He was a fella. Isn't that a great little piece of trivia there?

Matt Fox 38:32

That is great. Would you like some uh what would you like on your hot dog?

Jamie Flanagan 38:35

I did not know that.

Matt Fox 38:36

Would you like some? Would you like some mustard on your hot dog? What are you talking about? Mustard gas. Oh Jesus. Okay. That's a pole.

SPEAKER_04 38:47

Wow.

August Gitshlag 38:48

I paid attention. What do you want? That's why Hitler has his little mustache because he couldn't fit his gas mask over and got mustard gas. Oh, really? He shaved, they they all shaved so they could get their gut gas masks which seal over their face because they were he got gassed. That was why WWE started doing that. Yeah. During one wow.

Matt Fox 39:09

Trivia. I love it. I'm full of shit. You are full of shit. That's great.

August Gitshlag 39:14

So those are two of those three will be uh talked about tomorrow.

Matt Fox 39:17

So who's listening?

August Gitshlag 39:19

Yeah. Right, right?

Matt Fox 39:20

Oh man. That's uh this red breast hit really, really well.

Jamie Flanagan 39:24

Nice stuff. I'm I'm in still enjoying it.

Matt Fox 39:27

I finished mine. It was it was very tasty.

Jamie Flanagan 39:29

I'm getting as it sits here and I'm I'm sniffing again. It's there's more of the barrel as it opens up. No, I don't just and it's in my hand. You know, I think it's warming up as I'm holding it, right? Because I'm holding it uh in the in the sifter. I think I think that's impacting it that I'm holding it as warming. So I'm getting a little more of the barrel smell. I'm enjoying that. I'm uh yeah.

White House Bar Story And Bottle Flex

Matt Fox 39:52

I didn't know uh thanks for bringing that on the show. Yeah, absolutely. On the nose, I didn't know if I would like it.

Jamie Flanagan 39:57

So speaking about our sponsors, yes, and the besides my Irish radio, uh, we still have our hats on. We still you still have your hat. You still have the hat on. But uh our other sponsor, not really, but he's uh the best kept secret, Tony Bigoni at the White House. He is decidedly he wants us in there like 24-7. He's like, You gotta come, you gotta come in. So I stopped in to see Tony, and I I just wanted to get it. Yeah, yeah. So I ordered a smoked old fashioned, and and we're chit-chatting, whatever. He's like, What do you want? I go, Well, I got my old fashioned, it's good. It was a school night. I'm like, uh good. I just wanted to drive this game or something, you're coming up. Yeah, I was uh leaving the pistons game, and I was like, I'm just I'm heading home. I just wanted to say hi. I was out and about, you know, I'm on a hall pass, I'm out, I'm gonna go say hi, all right? And he's like, What do you want?

Matt Fox 40:47

That's anything.

Jamie Flanagan 40:48

He's like, I really I could have called.

Matt Fox 40:50

He put his hands up four feet in the air, and he said, What do you want?

Jamie Flanagan 40:53

So, what'd you get? So, after the third time he did that, so the first one we did a four roses. The second one he brought down a weller without me even asking. Because we were talking about his barrel pick one there. It was a barrel pick from years ago. It was a Weller 107. Oh, there was a antique. It was uh the antique, the the belly, yep, the 107. And he had a fallout with uh folks about and they're like, You're charging too much, because it was like whatever.

August Gitshlag 41:20

Oh, with this barrel society people or whatever.

Jamie Flanagan 41:22

Have you ever heard of the barrel? Yeah, and it was like they were mad, and you were like, You you how are you charging so much? He's like, Well, you're selling them for$300 as soon as I give it to you. So it's like, what am I cutting into your profits? You know, it's like he was like, but it was a reasonable price. I mean, it was more than than I normally pay for a bottle, but and so he brought that one because we were talking about that and about the barrels and whatever. I don't know how it came up, and he's like, This this is the bottle from that barrel. So he poured it. I'm like, I think, and then he goes again, he was like, What else? What else you want? I'm like, stop it, it's a school night. I'm like, I'm just I came in from one cocktail, and I go, and all the red breasts are like right up front, right?

August Gitshlag 42:00

And he has there's like 10 different expressions, and only he has them, yeah, because he's been hanging on to those in that back room for literally 10-15 years.

Jamie Flanagan 42:07

He finally fixed his little back room too, and that's how that conversation started. When we were in the old back room, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. So he had like 10 of these expressions of red breasts, and I'm like, that just something from the red breast family, right? And because it did it, they go anywhere from like a$40 bottle to uh there's no$40 bottles of red breasts. Three, six hundred dollars. They start at$80. Okay, yeah, so$80 to a$400 bottle, right? And they're lined up as such. And he's like, which one? I got whatever just something in the family. It's it's we're coloursing on St. Patrick's Week. Let's do a yeah, that's that's the reason. Let's do an Irish. Yeah, I go, I like the red breast, you know. That's it in any one of them. Yes, he pulls he goes to the end of the line and he grabs the top of the line, and yeah, the 18. Oh boy, pulls it over, and I'm like, I'm like, I wish it was like, and this is like after a cocktail and two others. I'm like, I wish we'd done it first. It was but it was very, very nice. He went to so generous.

Matt Fox 43:03

He's a nice guy, he's wonderful. You went to the Pistons game, yeah. And you uh Irish heritage nice, was it really?

Pistons Arena Music And Loud Crowds

Jamie Flanagan 43:10

Jesus, that's the only reason you went. I know, I know.

Matt Fox 43:18

But you you had posted, you're like, what they play music during the play?

August Gitshlag 43:22

Yeah, you had noticed that's only been like 25 years. The last Pistons game I saw was at the palace. They're still doing it.

Matt Fox 43:29

But but back then, but it to his to his defense, a lot of people commenting on that were like, really? But it was a lot of white people who've never been to a Pistons game commenting on that. But the music that was being it was like a it was more of a timer music, and it would do back at the palace, it was more of a timer music. In between, but now it's during play it's like top forty that's being played and snippets.

August Gitshlag 43:55

Instrumental, they're not singing, there's no lyrics. No, there's but it's I didn't I don't remember hearing lyrics, but there's it's Drops music and they're playing it throughout because it gets quiet, it gets really kind of like back and forth, and it's like miss a shot. Well, miss a shot. I would rather hear the squeaks of the sweet.

Matt Fox 44:12

I would rather hear the squeak.

Jamie Flanagan 44:13

But it's interesting because on broadcasts, yes, I am, you don't you don't hear it, right? So they must have very directional minds. I noticed on this in the broadcast. On the broadcast, I don't notice it.

August Gitshlag 44:22

It must be a little behind it.

Jamie Flanagan 44:24

Yeah, that I just is it is a crowd noise, is it rubble, rubble, rubble, rubble, rubble, or is it you know music? Yeah, you know, I mean and I didn't I hadn't really noticed it in broadcast, and I don't think it happens in college ball.

August Gitshlag 44:35

I can't read, I can't tell you. They don't I watch a bunch of college. Well, college ball has bands.

Jamie Flanagan 44:40

Yeah, they do have bands, but they don't play through, they don't play during play. I don't think they do. No, they don't. Yeah, the crowd is super loud, anyways. Yeah, I was astounded by that. That was in that was insane.

August Gitshlag 44:52

There's gonna be plenty of college basketball college basketball to watch now, and this week coming up, it's it's the time.

Matt Fox 44:57

But again, to your defense, when I when I took my mother to a pistons game earlier this season, yeah, I couldn't have a conversation with her because it was so freaking loud because of the music that was being played during the play. And I'm asking her a question.

August Gitshlag 45:10

Is that why you go to pistons games? They have conversations with your mother with a deep talk. To my defense, she Where did I come from, Mom?

Matt Fox 45:16

She had turned off where did I really come from? She had turned off her hearing aids because it was just so so I'd ask a question. She's like, What?

Jamie Flanagan 45:22

Ma what'd get it on the way home.

Matt Fox 45:27

That's the thing. So we left at halftime and we went to Eastern Palace Club and we had a good conversation there.

Jamie Flanagan 45:32

There you go. There you go. That is a good spot to go near the stadium.

Matt Fox 45:35

I'm like, Mom, we're going to a beach themed uh bar. I was fascinated by that though. Yes, I can tell.

World Baseball Classic And Goodbye

August Gitshlag 45:42

Caught you off guard. It's it's a thing. Yeah, yeah. It is what it is. Yeah, it's good stuff. Well, I am gonna button it up and head home and watch the world baseball class. Like I got early morning tomorrow at Koonin's Kunans at 7:30. Chaffin will join me at uh nine. Show he's out. Shoey's out, they're out. Didn't he just beat him? Venezuela beat Japan.

Matt Fox 46:06

Didn't he just hit like a like hit a home run like he did in the last baseball classic or something like that? No.

August Gitshlag 46:11

No, he uh they lost to Venezuela. It's Team Italy versus Team Venezuela tonight, and the winner gets to play the United States. Wow. And Team Italy is all American kids, just Italian last names.

Matt Fox 46:22

So you the these are the last two teams to play?

August Gitshlag 46:25

Yeah, this is the other semifinal. All right last night USA beat Dominican Republic on a really bad pitch call at the end of the game. Yeah, it was bad. All right, it was bad, but we'll take it. Merka.

Jamie Flanagan 46:37

All right, you guys. That was fun. Those uh I I would do this cocktail again. Not why there's some left for the bridal shower. I wanted to, we were getting through the other. I'm gonna finish it.

Matt Fox 46:46

I still have a little bit left too. Yeah, I'm gonna have a little left. So but fellas, I really appreciate your your camaraderie and your Monday nights and and spending your Monday nights.

August Gitshlag 46:55

This is Monday in between St. Patrick's holidays. Yes. Great in tomorrow.

Matt Fox 47:00

Until tomorrow, everyone be safe. Be careful.

August Gitshlag 47:03

Yeah, be careful tomorrow, whatever wherever you indulge in your shenanigan, your flananagans.

SPEAKER_00 47:07

Your flanagans.

August Gitshlag 47:09

Cheers. Good night, guys.