How A Lounge Hack, Krakow Adventure, And Coffee Bourbon Turned Into An Espresso Old Fashioned

The night starts with a clink and a curveball: can a coffee-finished bourbon carry an old fashioned without losing its soul? We chase that question through a studio full of snacks, a suitcase of Polish mead, and a first-time trip to Krakow that began with an eight-hour layover and a lounge pass that changed the game. By the time the ice hits the glass, we’ve mapped a travel strategy anyone can steal, compared notes on Christmas market chaos, and found the best pizza we didn’t expect in Zakopane on the busiest day of the year.

Back home, a “big box of that” drops on the table: Double Neat coffee pods, whiskey pecans, bourbon almonds, and jerky with a late pepper kick. It’s the sort of box you put out for friends who love bourbon but don’t need another bottle to enjoy the night. We taste our way through textures and pairings, then turn to the bottle of the hour: Bibb & Tucker Gold Roast, aged six years and infused with roasted coffee beans. On the nose, coffee leads; on the palate, chocolate, char, and a smooth finish. We get nerdy on bourbon rules, what “infused” really means, and how to build a cocktail that keeps the coffee present without burying the base spirit.

Then we stir. Two ounces of bourbon, a lighter-than-usual pour of simple syrup, healthy Angostura, clear ice, and a debate over Luxardo cherries that ends in two camps and one happy table. The espresso old fashioned holds its shape, even under sweetness and spice, which earns it a spot in our upcoming recipe guide. Between sips, we swap travel hacks, teacher jokes, and a quick look at how merch once helped local bartenders when gigs vanished. That’s the heartbeat here: share what you love, help where you can, and leave people with something they can use this weekend.

If you’re curious about coffee in cocktails, want smarter travel moves, or need a gift that keeps the conversation going, this one’s for you. Hit play, steal the recipe, and tell us how you’d tweak the bitters or the garnish. And if you enjoyed the ride, follow the show, leave a review, and share it with a friend who always orders an old fashioned.

Chapters

• 0:00 Happy Hour Banter & Intros
• 2:45 First Europe Trip: Krakow Stories
• 7:40 Travel Hacks: Lounges, Delays, Wins
• 12:40 Christmas Markets & Family Logistics
• 18:20 Food Quests, Diet Needs, And Pizza
• 22:30 Local Scene, DJ Nights, And Community
• 28:30 Merch, Fundraising, And Listener Support
• 34:00 The Big Box Of That Arrives
• 38:50 Double Neat: Coffee, Nuts, Jerky

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:16

We're gonna drink a fine whiskey and smoke a really fine cigar.

Jamie Flanagan: 0:24

It is time for happy hour. It is the man cave happy hour, whiskey, cigars, spirits, and stories that go along with it. I'm Jamie Flanagan. I am sitting next to August Get Shag.

SPEAKER_03: 0:35

That's right. And the man patting my back right now, so lovely and gently and warm. Is a sexy Matt Fox.

Matt Fox: 0:43

Hey, what's up, buddy? Okay, guys. We talked a little bit about you last week.

Jamie Flanagan: 0:48

We talk a lot about you. It's don't be the first one to leave the party, is all I gotta say. Okay, well never be the first one to leave the party.

SPEAKER_03: 0:54

Yeah, we talked about you. Someone say I've never left the party, and that's why I'm always in trouble.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:02

Where's a bell? Give me a bell. There it is. You don't want to tie uh any all right, yeah. Bell's good enough. All right, fair enough. Yeah, so you were uh traveling the world.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11

Well, not the world. A little bit. Oh, anyway, that's my phone. My phone's talking to me. Oh no, and the one who didn't turn the volume off on that guy. Who's the numbnuts? That would be me. Um, you know, it's been so long since I've been here, I forgot to write the rules. Come on. Yeah, so I made my first trek across the pond. Yeah, oh yeah. So you're very that was your very first. I've never been to Europe.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:31

Wow. So uh we have okay. So Colina were watching uh the Sunday morning television, and they're like, the internationally performer Alexander Zoncek. I'm like, what did he play in Windsor? They're pitching Alexander Zoncek as this international recording artist.

SPEAKER_03: 1:50

Well, he I'm like, why he's the master of the who's the pan flute the pan flute. Who's that guy? Is that him? I always liked him. I always liked him.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:59

So we're being causing, but you really went. Yes, I went to Krakow, Poland. Krakow. I'm jealous. I but where we're uh I'm happy.

SPEAKER_03: 2:09

It was quite the trains, planes, and automobiles trip for me, though.

Matt Fox: 2:12

I mean because you left at what time in the morning?

SPEAKER_03: 2:16

So it it okay, Saturday morning, our time, uh-huh at a 10 a.m. flight to Newark. That takes an hour and 20 minutes to get to Newark, right? Sure. Then we had eight hours to wait in Newark to get on the plane. Hey, look, to Munich. Well, here's the best idea I ever had because we're flying Luftanza. Uh-huh. They gave me the option on their on their app to buy two Luftanza lounge tickets for 50 bucks a pop. Okay. Unlimited booze, unlimited wine, unlimited food for eight hours.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:46

Eight hours. You could eat, take a nap, get drunk, take a nap. Yeah, and eight hours.

SPEAKER_03: 2:51

And then have a snack and grab for a plane. Get on the plane. Yeah. And that's exactly what happened. All right. Uh, so it was the best 50 bucks a person I've ever spent in my life. You know, just the the wines have alone would have been 50 bucks for two glasses of wine and some French fries in the airport, you know. That was a great deal. Twice that, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 3:09

Yeah, well done. Yeah. So well, welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. You there was there was you said something about Polish mead. Did you bring back? I brought back a bunch of meads. Really?

SPEAKER_03: 3:17

How do you bring back bottles from I put them in my carrier or my my check luggage and hope for the best? Really? Yeah. They're all little ones, all 750 or the 250s, not the 750s, not the big ones, just little ones. Okay. Okay. And I got uh I brought like six of them back. So all right.

Jamie Flanagan: 3:30

So you said we're gonna you're gonna bring one in and uh we'll try a Polish. I love the I love the sounds of that.

SPEAKER_03: 3:36

Sweet. We drank a lot of mold wine and a lot of mold weed. Weed, weed, mold mead. Speaking of weed, because we were there for the Christmas markets. That was the original reason. Last year, Kat went to Munich and Nuremberg for the Christmas markets, and uh she wanted to go to Krakhov this year, and so her mom and dad said, Oh, we'll go. And then it became a family affair with uh her other sister, her other sister's family and the kids. And next we know we're nine deep trying to find gluten-free, dairy-free restaurants in Krakow. Right.

Matt Fox: 4:03

But you found them.

SPEAKER_03: 4:03

We found them and I had one of the best pieces of pizza I ever had in my life in a place called Zakapane. It's like Frankenmouthon incredible Hulk steroids, it was super tourist jammed. Yeah, so and we were apparently were there on the busiest day of the year, which is December 6th, okay, which is like the first day of Christmas there. Yeah, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 4:20

So we were there and every boy scout. Santa puts the coal in the shoes on December, yeah. At least for me. For my house, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 4:26

Yeah, and yeah, so it was it was jam-packed full of people. That's great. All right, Satan and some really cool Airbnbs. The Krakow is an ancient town full of young people, okay, which had a lot of energy. Wow.

Matt Fox: 4:38

Is it Krakow or is it Krakow?

SPEAKER_03: 4:39

Krakow if I was if I'm you know, I'll get the shroud actually yell at me if I don't say Krakow. Krakow. Hey, I'm in Krakow, man. Let's have a can I get a coarse light and Krakow and some French fries. They do have french fries, but their burgers are not burgers, like we know them.

Jamie Flanagan: 4:54

Yeah, so yeah, you got you. It was funny. I texted you, you're like, Hey, you back? He's like, Yes, and I'm getting some American food.

SPEAKER_03: 5:00

Yes, I want to write for a good old-fashioned bacon cheeseburger.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:05

But today, before we get rolling here, yeah, I want to I want to take a second and thank everybody for listening and ask you to tell a friend, phone a friend, and and let them let them know about it. Like, subscribe, leave a comment, all those podcast things in all the podcast places. So, yeah, no, do that. Leave the likes and the subscribe, do a little thumbs up or whatever. Yeah, it helps us. Appreciate that. It's it it keeps us coming back. Don't kid yourself, we're coming back regardless. But wait, there's a bar here, we're coming back. That's true. T-shirts, yes, wearing funny.com, our sponsor. So wearing funny.com, it's funny, just wear it. Okay, that's a slogan. You write that one for me. I'm working I'm workshopping it. I'm work shopping it. Just wear it. It's funny, just wear it. Wearing funny.com. No, actually, somebody had asked me about it this week. We've got another Todd's reunion night coming up at Smalls the day after Christmas. I wasn't supposed to DJ it, but all of a sudden, the guy who's promoting it, not the smalls people, but Charles who's promoting it, he's like, and Jamie James. And I'm like, and I'm so I messaged Mike, the owner of Smalls. I'm like, dude, you said you were covered, you didn't need me. He's like, Yeah, I don't know. You want to come in? I'm like, Yeah, sure. He's like, All right, come on in. There you go.

SPEAKER_03: 6:14

Someone said a three DJ. Four.

Jamie Flanagan: 6:15

Yeah. So we all get to play about five minutes. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03: 6:18

Make sure you don't play each other's songs.

Jamie Flanagan: 6:20

Yeah. Oh, I did that, you know, it's been one year since we lost Kat. Yes. What yesterday? And the last yesterday.

SPEAKER_03: 6:26

And the and the last bit put up a great picture of her. I'm like, this is the perfect picture of Kat. That's how I'm always in my head right there. Just gorgeous. The hair and everything. Just boom.

Jamie Flanagan: 6:35

But the last time I DJ'd with Kat, I played one of her songs again. And she just hugged me. She came up and was rubbing my back. And I'm like, oh hey, tonight's taking a good turn. And then she's like, you know, I played this about four songs ago. Oh boy. I'm like, oh, damn it. She's all right. They're still dancing. I'm like, all right.

Matt Fox: 6:56

Second time. They wanted more.

Jamie Flanagan: 6:58

Love that woman. So uh, but anyway, so yeah, smalls is going to the small the Todd's night of smalls is coming up, and there's some Todd's t-shirts and long sleeve shirts and hoodies available at wearing funny.com. And somebody was like, Who did those? Because we did that during COVID. Yes. And and we donated the money, the profits that we got to uh a couple local bartenders because COVID bartend bartenders were hurt, yeah, and they couldn't.

SPEAKER_03: 7:21

The gig economy was suffering. Yeah, yeah, very much so.

Jamie Flanagan: 7:24

So we were like, it just coincided with a Todd's event, and I had that shirt, and I'm like, hey, I because I asked the Todd's people that kind of find themselves in charge of the entity. I was like, Do you mind if I do that? And they're like, Oh my god, no, we haven't done shirts in you know 10 years, do them. And so I did, I put it out there, and we made, I think we gave 500 bucks to uh two different bartenders, Tara and somebody else, who were struggling through that time. But somebody asked me about it this week, and they're like, Well, who was doing those Todd shirts? And I was like, I'm like, that was me. I I don't like, you know, I mean, I'm not trying to make money off of it. Um you know, I'd like to make a couple of bucks, but yeah, I just I just love the culture and I love the I'd love I want people to have them. So and I want to make the dollar ninety-five off of each or yeah, you want that cut. I get it. I mean it's I seriously, it was about a dollar ninety five to three bucks somewhere. So hey, it helps pay the bills here at the man caveat. It does, it keeps the keeps the lights on the podcast your voice studios keeps it.

Matt Fox: 8:18

It was Tara Wong, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, she got one. Yeah, she was one of the partners. Friends of the show.

SPEAKER_03: 8:23

So anyone out there listening, we are to borrow a phrase from another podcast that I listened to. We here at the Man Cave Happy Hour are susceptible to a big box of that. So if you send us a big box of that, yes, we will talk about that that that you sent us that you want us to see. Speaking of which, we have a box of that here.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:40

Someone sent us a box of that. Kyle Taylor from Double Neat. And Kyle was supposed to join us, but people get the schnivels. Yeah, they get a little sip sometimes. So when they're on the other side of the planet it has Double Neat does some neat stuff. There you go. They give you that line. No. Again, workshop. I've this is what I do. That's I know.

Matt Fox: 8:59

I I are you constantly workshopping it up?

Jamie Flanagan: 9:01

I'm always it's uh yeah, I know that about I know that about you. No, it's funny because I'll I because I teach high school, right? And I'll have like a couple of classes, like I'll do a couple of sections of news 12, a couple sections of journalism, and I'll be like, We trust him with your children. Oh did I uh did I do this joke earlier?

SPEAKER_03: 9:16

Did I yeah, how many dad jokes do you go through a day as a teacher?

Jamie Flanagan: 9:20

God, yeah, yeah. Uh a lot. Uh a lot. So uh they say, Mr.

Matt Fox: 9:24

Flanagan, can I run to the bathroom? He's like, Yeah, go just a little bit. No, no, no, no.

Jamie Flanagan: 9:29

Here's here's my favorite. Can I, hey, Mr. Fan, can I go to the bathroom really fast? I go, okay, gross. Whoever times that.

unknown: 9:35

Oh God.

SPEAKER_03: 9:37

It works, yeah. Okay.

Jamie Flanagan: 9:39

And they're like, huh? I'm like, you may go and return quickly. Promptly. As as the rate of what you do once you get there, that's that's up to you.

Matt Fox: 9:50

People say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna skate out of here while you're wearing shoes.

Jamie Flanagan: 9:56

No boy. No safe zone from the dad jokes. Make like a tree and get out of and get out of here.

SPEAKER_03: 10:04

It's leave, you idiot. Leave leave, you moron. Make like a tree and leave.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:09

Well, we're gonna do a couple things tonight. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna meander our way through the uh double neat box. Okay. We're gonna end, but I wanted to do I I because I I picked up this bottle of bib and tucker from our good friend Big Tony at the wine garden. Okay, I was there uh yesterday. Yeah, this he's got the he's got this on the on the shelf. This uh I saw it. Uh it's uh it's interesting.

SPEAKER_03: 10:28

I saw a few different bibb and tucker uh label labels. I've always been uh I love the original. When I go to paint a lady, it's one of my go-to for my for my old fashions there.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:38

This is new and tucker. This is new. He's sold me a bunch of I want to do an espresso old fashion. So yeah, that's what I'm thinking because this Bibb and Tucker is finished uh with coffee beans. Is that what it says? Coffee beans. Oh, all right, from Columbia. We'll read what it is. Columbia. But I want to do and I don't know if you want to do my beard. I don't know if you want to uh do a taste first or the bibb and uh just to just add a bit of a bit of a taste of the of the of the naked thing. The coffee's not your favorite.

SPEAKER_03: 11:06

I know. I'm gonna, it's not like I'm I mean, I'm not gonna rank it. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna blast it. But I thought I'm gonna taste it.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:13

I thought that would be a nice aside, a nice accompaniment to the to the the double neat box. So double neat, it's a box service. There's coffee, there's coffee pods, right? So we got these double neat coffee pods. Is there actually whiskey in there? They're whiskey infused, right? And if Kyle Taylor was here, he would say.

Matt Fox: 11:34

I did want to create more laundry, but we ain't doing it.

SPEAKER_03: 11:36

He is. Oh shit. He takes the dishes home. That's it.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:42

What are you doing? Do it right. Come on. I'm going higher register here. What's going on, man? I have I have one of the baby ones here. What are you doing here, man? There's one of the baby ones by the conversation.

SPEAKER_03: 11:51

Those were a lovely gift from our bourbon pal. Neat or stir, folks. Yeah, those are. Neat or stir. That guy, that guy had a story.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:58

So single served coffee pods came in this this box from Double Neat. I didn't fire up the curriculum, so because I figured we're we got a lot of stuff to drink. But then there's a whole array of snacks and goodness in here. And we kind of dove into it before. There's whiskey pecans, yes. Whiskey pecans pecans or pecans. How are we talking?

SPEAKER_03: 12:14

Is it pecans or pecans?

Jamie Flanagan: 12:16

Barrel pick me that jerky. I mean, I've been dreaming about that. I know. What you call me? I know. And then Berman Albans Maple Slow Roast. And these were all in the all in the tisket atasket that was in the basket. In that big box of that.

SPEAKER_03: 12:31

I drink maybe really meat beef jerky. I gotta get out the old air fryer recipe back soon.

Matt Fox: 12:37

Good stuff right there.

Jamie Flanagan: 12:38

Yeah. It's it's it's got a little bit of a kick to it, though.

SPEAKER_03: 12:41

It does.

Jamie Flanagan: 12:41

So I thought the I thought the uh bibb and tucker coffee. Yeah, yeah. There's a second bag, there's a second bag of each of these. Because yeah, we kind of we kind of hit the jerky a little bit. I think we we enjoyed the we enjoyed the jerky.

SPEAKER_03: 12:56

Whoa, that jerky has a that's a late hit. Oh, it's great. That's that's peppery.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:00

It's wonderful. It's wonderful. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox: 13:06

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:06

But it's nice jerky, but it's um it's soft. It's um it's a little chewy.

SPEAKER_03: 13:11

It's uh wow, it's got some heat to it.

Matt Fox: 13:13

Yeah, it's not like the jack links where you gotta break your jaw just trying to get a small piece off of it.

SPEAKER_03: 13:19

Snap it into a slim gem and do it.

Matt Fox: 13:21

No, it's not happening.

SPEAKER_03: 13:22

Snap into it. Snap into a slim jam.

Matt Fox: 13:26

So we got enough Glen Karens on here. I only had there was only one other one in there, so there's plenty in there.

SPEAKER_03: 13:31

There's there's big ones.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:33

Well, I said the other small ones by the where smaller puffs.

SPEAKER_03: 13:36

Is your first time in the studio?

Jamie Flanagan: 13:38

By the coffee maker. By the coffee maker. By the coffee maker. By the coffee. Oh, see, I wasn't looking at it that I had used that one, and I think I'd use this one. I've used two. Who wants my sloppy seconds?

SPEAKER_03: 13:47

You can use it for yourself.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:48

I use two. Oh. But that one, that one's I mean, I'm not scared of your cooties. That one's dry and my cooties. This one's moist my cooties.

SPEAKER_03: 13:59

Is it moist from the pantry? It's moist. Moist from the pantry.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:03

So that barrel, but the barrel picked jerfe. Jerky. Jerfey? Jerfey. The barrel picked jerky is jerky. Yes. It it it has, it's it's it's peppery, but there is a smoke to it. There is like a smoke.

SPEAKER_03: 14:16

So this all came in one box, right? Yeah, beetle jerky, the the the coffee pods, the pecans, pecans, slow roast or two.

Matt Fox: 14:24

Two boxes of the coffee.

SPEAKER_03: 14:25

Two boxes of that.

Matt Fox: 14:26

Because okay, so I have a tradition on Thanksgiving morning and Christmas morning. Uh-huh. And I do Irish hazelnut coffee. Oh it's my my Folgers black silk, hazelnut creamer, and Jameson whiskey. My hazelnut.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:38

Black silk, porn star coffee flavor.

Matt Fox: 14:40

Correct, correct. But I'm really curious about this whiskey coffee because if I can just do this and my hazelnut creamer, I'm I'm good. I don't have to spend the money on the Jameson.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:51

You'll always, you always need a little Jameson. All right, you're fine. Yeah. Although I do want to try these and see how I'm just curious because I've whiskey infused they are whiskey coffee, single barrel pods.

Matt Fox: 15:00

Yeah, I'm just very curious. I might have to.

Jamie Flanagan: 15:02

There's words on the back, man. What are the words on the back?

Matt Fox: 15:04

Words on the oh, you want me to read? Yeah, all right. I gotta take my glasses off because I'm that guy. Uh this isn't just coffee, it's what we reach for when the glass is empty, but the day's just beginning. Wow. So at Double Meat, we started as a newsletter for whiskey lovers, and we still are. But now we make coffee and snacks for the kind of people who like their morning strong. These stories are true and their drinks neat. Okay. Their stories true and their drinks neat.

Jamie Flanagan: 15:37

But how does how are the pods whiskey coffee? Are their coffee.

Matt Fox: 15:43

No, I was reading the you told me to read the back of the box. So I'm just uh it says notes of vanilla, char, and spice. That's what it says. So they get the whole story. There's a cute.

Jamie Flanagan: 15:53

So I wonder if the coffee beans are like stored in whiskey barrels. They do that.

Matt Fox: 15:58

If Kyle was had was able to join us, that's okay.

SPEAKER_03: 16:01

I'm going to try to.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:04

I'm eating it like crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 16:05

Still gonna snack away.

Matt Fox: 16:06

Is that is that dinner, Jamie?

SPEAKER_03: 16:07

It is.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:08

I didn't have dinner.

Matt Fox: 16:08

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:09

The bourbon almonds? Yeah. Maple slower. There's a good there's a nice maple. Yep. Nice maple sweetness to it.

SPEAKER_03: 16:19

You're gonna finger bang that box open there? I did. Got it in. We got it in when you were when you weren't here. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Okay. Any of you guys get your Spotify list of your top podcasts that you listen to each year? Oh, I know you listen to me. We we ranked fourth on my list. The man gave this? Yeah, this is how often I don't listen to myself. It's just weird. That's great. Yeah, after Tony Kornheiser, which I was in the top one percent because I listen to that every day. And uh Conan O'Brien and Chuck Todd. Those are my four. And then and then Chuck Todd, the news anchor, dude. Chuck Todd. Chuck the Chuck Todd cast.

Matt Fox: 16:56

Fan of the Todd Cast.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:57

So these are nice. This is like the gift that keeps on giving. Let me see those whistles. Yeah. It's like the jelly of the month. Park. That's a gift that keeps on giving for the whole year. It's um, you know, you could gift this to someone who who likes snacking and and likes you know bourbon things. It's like you're like, oh, I don't want to give him a bottle. He's a drunk. I don't want to encourage that. There's no booze here.

SPEAKER_03: 17:20

This is just snacky snacks. Yeah. My parents get my sister gives my parents every year for Christmas the international snack box. She keeps on giving the whole year. I love that. It's exactly the same size as this box, and it comes with it's like the Netherlands, and it has all the snacks that they sell in the local convenience stores in like Rotterdam or something, you know. It's a box a month. They get yeah, they get a Hungarian one, Turkish one, you know, Russian candy, Polish candy. So what I brought back for them, because I know they love their snack boxes. I brought back fresh made cow candy, the Polish cow candy, which is like a car caramel, caramel, whatever caramel, caramel, caramel. It's it's Christmas season, so it has to be like caramel. Did you get them a box of cud? No, okay. Got them cow candy, and they love it. They said it was so good.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:05

So I had to say it, man. Are these agree? But yeah, so double neat. You can head over to their website and order for yourself. Yeah, so if you're if you're looking for like interesting things to have out for horse to divors for like a little social gathering, it's fun stuff.

SPEAKER_03: 18:19

Yeah, oh yeah, these are quality charterie board uh level almonds and stuff too.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:25

Yeah, yep. So it's it's fun stuff for and I what I like it is I put the beef jerky out there and Colleen won't eat it, and it'll be all mine.

SPEAKER_03: 18:34

Yeah, I can't doses, but not just because it's peppery, because it's pepper city, yeah, because she does she don't do the jerky.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:40

I'm like, I'm all about the jerky. I got I got a little bit of jerky. How'd she get through high school?

SPEAKER_03: 18:45

Ah but um bum. Hey oh anybody, anybody? Ah, yeah. So I'll wrap my mouth again.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:53

But I to compliment the the double neat. I wanted to do, I I picked up, I was at uh Tony's best kept secret in St. Clair Shores. If you're in the Metro area, go to the whiskey garden.

SPEAKER_03: 19:05

Whiskey garden or wine garden. The whiskey's kicking in. That's what happens when you do a my Irish radio before you do this. You just drink that Irish whiskey and it sends you off. You're just a little off.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:14

It is, it is. Yeah, boy, am I a whiskey dick. Yeah. But um bum. All right. I was at the wine garden right when he opened up his uh new speakeasy called the best kept secret, and uh the representative from Bibb and Tucker was there. Yeah, I'm 90% sure the guy's name was Tom, but I'm only 90% sure.

SPEAKER_03: 19:36

Let's have him bring us a box of that come on in here.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:38

Yeah, it's Tom Tom Mulrennan. Anyway, so I got it scared. Tom, call okay. So, Tom, we're talking about your stuff. But Tom had had just pitched this to Tony because it was brand new. He's like, Let's try it. And uh, there was about five people in because it was like the second night it was over. The five I missed the first night because I had a school event. Yeah, like Tony, I'm so sorry, I can't be there. And I went the second night he was. open and there was like there was like there was like 10 people there and then some of them left and it was like this rep a couple you know good Tony's good friends and me and the bartender right and the the Tom pulls out he's like Tony he goes we're gonna try this and he pulls out the fifth and cracks it it was gone oh wow you went through it huh yeah so they poured a couple cocktails with it and we we did it we did it on over ice and but it all right so bib and tucker it it bibb and tucker I like bib and tucker it's just kind of a fun bottle to have on your shelf yeah it's a good bottle if you're watching the video it's fun it's good it's not sell it here they only recently brought it to Michigan I used to get it from Kentucky a cork stopper which is kind of fun and it's like a a a black on black or a brown on brown bottle it was like a jug and then yeah and yeah it's like an old timey feel to it you know exactly you know yeah yeah yeah so it's it's it's nice the recess class and everything but this six years old so this Bibb and Tucker small batch bourbon whiskey infused with coffee beans the gold roast bourbon it's batch number one coming in in 92 proof and it's uh Bibb and Tucker gold is aged for six years and a new American oak as as it would be infused with roasted coffee beans giving this bourbon a complex yes noticeably smooth finish with subtle notes of roasted coffee now are they subtle or are they not that will be up to the discerning cocktail tricker so I want to make but I was thinking because last week we did an old fashioned we did a grand old fashioned we did an old fashioned but instead of using simple syrup we used uh grand manier yeah oh that's that's an old bartender trick yeah very it was fun it was uh so we made a grand we made a grand old fashioned and so those it was nice and so today I thought we would do an espresso old fashion okay uh but before we before we try the espresso old fashion and I don't know it's not a recipe I'm just I'm I'm winging it I'm this is jazz style all right so we're just on check all just happened I don't know yeah he thought he was uh the anchor man there from anchor man I was playing the Yazz flute I thought he was way I thought he was Wayne and Garza on one yeah yeah time time warping it so I figured we'd give it a try it we'll try it try it neat fair we'll try a little sippy sippy neat first revisit Wayne's world now and if if you want you and then we can do a cocktail but I haven't I I'm not following a recipe I just brought the what's the recipe for straight whiskey no no no no for an old for the old fashioned okay for the old fashioned right so that's probably a half ounce pour there for you guys so indeed so on the nose what are you getting on the nose i got i'm getting the coffee right away yeah straight it's straight away it's straight away coffee on the nose coffee on it yep and but but there's a there's a bourbon behind it there's it's not just uh it's not just your McDonald's roast it's there's a there's a bourbon yeah is well a 90 proof is a little hot it's not super hot and then sippy sippy sippy it's it's I don't get overwhelmed with coffee from it but I'm a coffee drinker yeah and I can tell that there's definitely a coffee flavor in this Bivin Tucker definitely can tell let me just wash my mouth out with water.

SPEAKER_03: 23:24

So you can't I can't and there's rules there's rules about bourbon this is small batch bourbon whiskey infused with coffee beans gold roast bourbon there's rules about because bourbon can't be flavored at all it's just the only flavor you get is from the barrel right for bourbon straight bourbon all right that's okay this is small batch bourbon didn't say straight bourbon I don't mind it so yeah it's it's are you getting chocolatey in there I'm getting a little yeah chocolatey it happens a lot though when you're when you're drinking coffee flavored things you get a chocolatiness to it no i was reading the Bible especially I was reading the Bible of the man cave happy hour and I was on the chapter fox and it was yeah it was the book of fox chapter seven verse two yeah and he saith unto you the power of persuasion compels you the power of persuasion compels you I said chocolate you're like yeah are you getting some juicy fruit yeah the man came bible with the book of are you getting some star fruit mango yes devil fruit yeah dragon yeah getting some dragon nut I tell ya so I'm dig I'm digging up some ice too maybe guys make it to the uh whiskey taco tequila christmas thing I did not we talked about doing we talked about I didn't make it either and it was so it's so it's it's people listen whenever but it's balls cold in Michigan yeah I never got out of my pajamas oh I did I I was out and about so I did not we had a lions game to cry over and yes there was a lot going on Sunday so I I ended up I ended up not going I kind of forgot about it and then I actually it looked fun Jen Cherry that hosts we gotta get her in here again she's a delight yeah she's a bundle of energy she she had posted some pictures and it just looked right like a rat yeah we need to join that fellas yeah that was at Whiskey Taco Foundry whiskey taco found right in clausen yep beautiful downtown they got some politics going on there boy there's a there's a little bit of politics happening everywhere around yeah they well one of the candidates was like up on charges innocent to proven guilty right in clausen yeah oh I don't know about that I just know that the entire council was beheaded basically they had a full in the last November election everyone that was there it's all gone except for one everyone got voted out except for yeah and Sue Moffat's the new mayor the only one yeah so and they and then they called a special meeting before that they were all sworn in so the old council could give everybody raises and put all these people on boards that were not and just did all this crazy shit. Yeah and the new council just undid it all yeah they they resented it all all right so an old fashioned is usually two ounces of bourbon correct a half ounce of simple syrup okay depends on it depends on taste yeah on the recipe I know we're going by old the old fashioned old fashioned two ounce two ounces two ounce of bourbon half ounce of simple syrup three dashes of bitters and a garnish right usually an orange slap that peel so I don't have an orange we got the Luxardo cherry I do have simple syrup but I also have maple syrup yeah I don't need that you don't want to instead of simple do a splash of maple syrup no I'd say I'd I'd go get that grand marnier back out with the coffee the grand manier and coffee well let's just try it your way I don't want maple syrup though you don't want to do the maple syrup I'll do simple I like I would rather do agave syrup I like doing the maple I do that at home though with the maple syrup and the with the New York sour when I do my New York sours I do the maple syrup and the New York sours okay so you do you buddy not here to tell you what to do at home all right so that's what I was gonna ask I was gonna ask where which way do we want to go do we want to go with the maple syrup or do we want to go with the simple syrup we'll go I'm a simple it was two you guys both I brought up Fox and I are simple men to discuss meat and potatoes kind of thing okay but here's it here's the thing here's the thing you don't know me what we're doing is we're offering people options okay and I told you what the fuck I wanted I was talking to the camera okay not to you I was talking to you looking at me looking through the camera right at me I know I know I was making good eye contact but um I felt it move all right so but I'm bummed yeah yeah yeah all right so it but again I I like to go a little lighter on the simple syrup yeah yeah when I when I do it you say half ounce I usually go a little lighter than that yeah so that's about a half ounce but I'm making a double okay so you need more than that yeah so you're gonna shake that up or stir it up and divide it amongst three yeah yeah dump that in there dump that in there yeah do it yeah dump that shit yeah yeah baby yeah faster like that South Park where he's uh calling all the food that the the his wife tells him to stop watching food network because he makes too many complicated dishes and then when they take it away he starts calling into recipe lines and he's like yeah deglaze that shit glaze it yeah I miss that I missed that episode so funny I think that's the one that has the uh shake weight too three here's your cab fair oh my god cooling mist all right so I'll just double in it we can divide I don't have to make it triple right now you better don't fuck with the dashes made you gotta get dashes just right no now here's the thing now I didn't get the orange because we have we have just the regular standards I didn't bring the orange into the room I just brought the standard angostora because I thought maybe with the maple syrup it would be too complicated.

Jamie Flanagan: 29:06

Well it's a good thing there's no maple syrup then so I know so should what which bitters should we use again this is I'm not following a risk we're bitter we're free we're freestyling we're free ball in this do this this is a this is a Jamie Flanagan are we doing the Angostora straight up or do it we're doing it all right all you do it so this is a double it should be six but should I do more than six because I like bitter heavy yes do you where are you but with the yes do the do the uh do the fox shake all right one two three four five six seven eight there you go I'll take it I always have her on the beard this always stains it can yeah the the regular Angus Dora is very use it use it on your beard it's very stainy I'll look like an orange ghoul I know you're not very orange you're more transparent than orange so my guy speaking of the ghoul do you think weirdo Yankovic is gonna take over Dr.

Matt Fox: 30:04

Demento's radio show I think it's weird Dr.

Jamie Flanagan: 30:08

Demento and Weirdo Yankovic is Dr. Demento's radio show what else does he play? What else is there? Right all right so there we go that's in there stirs like 20 stirs that works 70 19 bartender tools tips tips tips yep tips so it's actually yep you stir it with the proper stools stir stool why are you stirring it with stool that's poop man that's uh yeah that's bad this is why Jamie doesn't do the bartending here usually I do all right so a little bit of that but this is your recipe tonight a little bit of that okay a little bit of that oh yeah okay a little bit of that let's go back to that first one back to that first one at that oh yeah need a little love there need a little love there boy fuck that all up like totally all right do over done done love you Jamie you know we're we're real we're real uh judgers over here on this side of the table the guy who's giving us booze which should be nicer I was having fun we're having fun all right so do we want the Luxardo in it yes please yes I want it without Luxardo you want the one with it that'll dominate everything I taste this is the deliciousness of the Luxardo cherry so I want to try this drink without it try it without it and then we can add the Luxardo's out I mean you can do whatever you want but I'm gonna try it without it slide one of those over there pick your friends pick your nose pick your cup your friends' nose all right gentlemen here we go this is uh an espresso old fashion cilantra two nastarovia okay the coffee still it holds up the coffee does hold up with the bit in Tucker the coffee holds up give me that bottle the booze are you gonna add a little more yeah for you wow for you August Mr I don't drink coffee no no I just want to get a more boozy taste one thing old fashioned is delicious sometimes you'll we it's really easy to over so who had less who had less simple syrup in there to start with and who shouted at me to put more well I think it was the right mine it was right move I just wanted a more boozy taste no you did it right you did exactly how people want them to taste yeah I'll see that's how the the the the old fashioned I like boozy I like boozy I like boozy too but if you're at a bar or restaurant you expect it to come with that sweet orangeness to it I don't mind this at all but there's no there was no I mean the Angus store there's no orange no I mean the Angus story this is just regular no it's just a sweetness but I do get a little between the maybe the combination of this and the yeah oh yeah yeah yeah I still get it I think it may be pulling it out of the pulling it out of the bourbon I just I just added a Luxardo cherry to it just to see how's that work for you Matthew I don't know yet I haven't tried it all right I'm trying to I'm trying to skewer a Luxardo I hope you get one in there the the the let me get in our mini fridge in here I feel like we're supposed to refrigerate some damn things well I got one in my classroom and I'm quitting it four months didn't you have one from like your your son's dorm room coming or something no he freaking took it I'm so pissed off jerk so man with stickers all over it oh we can do that too is there an I love New York sticker on it too yeah no all right so no it's actually an espresso old fashion it really like a that's nice that's fine Jimmy you did a good job with this cocktail I giving you shit because it's funny it's content here's here's we did a good job here's what I'm doing it's I'm it's in the process there is a man cave happy hour cocktail we're doing a recipe book book yeah okay it's a PDF book that you'll be able to download it's common um and it's it's all the recipes and and the the the the signature cocktails that we've done on the shows so this one would be one of those in there yep so the man of war what are you gonna call this one just a espresso old fashion okay should I call it coffee old fashioned or espresso old fashion espresso bibb and tucker espresso old fashion ooh yeah there you go get a little product no placement model product yeah absolutely and then see if Tom will send us uh a box of that a box a box gotta send us a box of that this is a this is if he doesn't call him at 586 that actually came from uh an outtake from that the the TV show PTI part of the interruption they had Steve Young on and Steve Young complimented someone like Tony goes that's a nice shirt where'd you get he goes oh I got it from this company blah blah blah he goes get a hold and have them send me a box I'll wear them send me a box of that send me a box and that's what it's like oh I'll just you send free shit to rich people huh and they'll wear it and you know yeah yeah yeah I don't know yeah send me a box of that I'm an influencer I know right we are technically I got an email we're we're under the influence that's for sure that is for sure and there was this it's up in Rochester Hills it's the Aurora lights and you walk through like this light show in the in the forest yes I've been there yeah I've been to that and there was but the grand opening right so I got an invite to the grand opening and it was like we're inviting so and so and so and so and influencers and I'm like I was like well I'm not a so and so and I'm not a so and so it's like am I an influencer I go because that's like that's like I hate that term it's ridiculousness I'm like you know I'm a local media celebrity I'm not a you know well no because I was on the that's how I got on all those lists was when I was doing the the major market radio stuff right and so I'm still on the list and I I love Don and I I love Lisa and all those people that keep me on those lists and uh you know and they love you and well you know whenever they they they they need young people for something they're like hey Jamie we need like 10 high school kids to show up and do this and I I'll I'll wrangle stuff in and I help them out and I there you go so you know it's it's you know we we work together so but anyway but it's funny I was like telling Colleen to go oh yeah we should go to this thing because it's a you know I they're like how she's like how do you get the invite to that again and I'm like I'm an influencer she hates that term oh my god she's like she's got five years on me you know and so think I'm a crotchety old man she is a crotchety old man this is the one episode she's gonna listen to yeah no she'll be like hell yeah turn that crap off get off and get off my own what was the word I used earlier Matt that you were like stodgy stodgy stodgy stodgy yeah stodgy I was I said it was a stodgy old man do you know what that means do you understand when I say I'm a stodgy old man yeah I'm a man of a certain age I understand those Matthew did not Matthew needed clarification I he politely raised his hand in the middle of the podcast he said may I may I bring this whole thing to a screeching halt and uh ask a question I mean it's a it's a term that originated when Scrooge was alive stodgy stodgy old man so you're welcome you didn't you didn't but if you wanted to know if you actually did that you could go over to uh my Irish radio on YouTube and see the interview we did put my hand up just so you would know I had something to say we did we did an interview with uh a band from Minneapolis the Wild Colonial Boys nice guys good guys if you like Irish music they do fun Irish stuff Wild Colonial Boys you should check them out and we got another I don't know I thought he was going to come in and like bust in on the show kind of like letting it squiggy hello well so we're expecting a guest any minute now right but yeah but he was like he was like oh I'm working on the scripts so we got a new podcast starting here eventually maybe tonight uh maybe tonight at podcast your voice studios and I forget his name no Justin Justin just motor city exotics or something motor city exotics not animals cars rentals yeah yes in motor city exotics I'm super excited to to not a brothel make some I was hoping yeah I was hoping it's funny when I rent I was renting out we were gonna rent out I was moved Colleen and I uh moved out of Sinclair Shores and bought our house at Troy and then we're gonna rent it out and so I had you know renters I had applications and the one woman was like what a whatever da da da you know it was it was oh Cynthia at johnjohns.com I'm like done it's going to you yeah you're in you get the house uh the cameras are up security cameras in place I was like on a closed network that I didn't end up renting to that person but they were on the short list of yeses that's for sure yes now this is for sure the one colleague's gonna pay when singles and shit she'll never make it 40 minutes in though even if she does now even if she does yeah yeah that's why we you were fourth i would we were fourth on my own podcast I can only listen to us clowns for so long oh man I like this no this you did a good job Jimmy yeah it's an espresso martinez Matt and I I give you guff because it's funny yeah last the last episode we're talking about creating you know what that means when you give someone guff another old term you know what that means Matt you with us I'm sorry I'm sorry my hearing's going to my left ear still Matt can you do me a classical favor and let our guest in oh are they here yeah whatever well you know what let's wrap this up and then we'll bring him in for the next thing do you want to wrap him up you want to bring him in and join us in in the goofiness yeah I don't know I think we're kind of done I think we're done all right yeah I I don't have anything else so double neat we'll put uh links to double neat we will and if we talk to Kyle you know we'll talk to Kyle maybe we'll get Kyle in another Kyle is always with snacks anytime you want to come in it was my God send us send us more snacks and we will talk to you send us another box of that send us another box of that box of that box of jerky specifically box of jerky next week for Christmas week next Monday yes is our Christmas episode.

Matt Fox: 39:56

So we dare you to show up we dare you to come in and show my Birthday. Oh my god. All right. Yep. So join us. Yes. Next one, put some butts in the seats here.

Jamie Flanagan: 40:06

All right. Like, subscribe, comments, all the podcast things and all the podcast places. That is August Kitchlack. That is Jamie Flanagan. Matt Fox is just so damn sexy. Thank you. Right next to me. Those are the voice just every time.

Matt Fox: 40:19

Oh, pay you later. All right.

unknown: 40:20

Fair.

Matt Fox: 40:21

Gotta shut it down, folks. Shut it down.

SPEAKER_03: 40:23

See you again.

Matt Fox: 40:23

Thanks, everybody.