Orphan Bottles, New Dogs, and Golf Course Glory

Nothing brings friends together quite like celebrating life's victories over a good glass of bourbon. In this episode, we're joined by special guest David, the Motor City Hypnotist, as we crack open some long-neglected "orphan bottles" and share stories that range from triumphant to heartwarming.

The spotlight first falls on Matt's incredible achievement - his first-ever hole-in-one after 17 years of golfing. The pure, unfiltered joy captured in the moment when his 5-iron shot disappeared into the cup on a 185-yard par 3 is something every golfer dreams about. "They call me Ace now," Matt jokes, still riding the high of that perfect shot at Westbourne Golf Club. The story sparks a larger conversation about our varied golfing experiences, from Jamie's childhood lessons with his father to Dave's relatively recent entry into the sport.

Our whiskey journey centers around a bottle with its own story to tell - New Holland's Beer Barrel Bourbon. Sent to us nearly seven years ago, this 80-proof bourbon aged in American white oak and finished for three months in Dragon's Milk stout barrels had been sitting untouched on our shelf after plans for a distillery interview fell through. We finally give this orphaned spirit its moment, discovering notes of stone fruit, a distinct beer finish on the palate, and contemplating how it might perform in cocktails compared to our welcome drink - a robust 110-proof Russell's Reserve private barrel selection.

Between sips, Dave shares his excitement about welcoming a new puppy into his home after losing his beloved Pippin two years ago, while Jamie recounts tales of his 19-year-old cat Kirby and newly adopted rescue dog Raina who's developed a particular fondness for ice cubes (or "water cookies" as Jamie affectionately calls them).

Whether you're a bourbon enthusiast, a golfer chasing that perfect shot, or simply enjoy genuine conversation among friends, this episode captures what Man Cave Happy Hour is all about - celebrating life's moments together, one glass at a time. Join us for the next round at mancavehappyhour.com or anywhere you find your favorite podcasts.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome to Man Cave Happy Hour
• 3:16 Matt's Legendary Hole-in-One
• 9:43 Golf Stories and Experience Levels
• 16:45 New Family Members: Dave's Puppy
• 21:57 Jamie's Pet Stories
• 31:40 Orphan Bottles: Beer Barrel Bourbon
• 38:12 Tasting and Comparing Whiskeys
• 42:40 Upcoming Events and Closing Thoughts

Transcript

Theme Song (Pat Akerley): 0:02

I said hey, hey welcome to the man Cave Happy Hour. I said hey, hey, welcome to the man Cave Happy Hour. We're gonna drink a fine whiskey and smoke a really fine cigar.

Jamie Flanagan: 0:25

It is time for Happy Hour. The man Cave Happy Hour Whiskey, cigars, spirits, the stories that go along with it. I am Jamie Flanagan.

David Wright: 0:32

I am not August Kitschlein oh no, nobody is, but he is Matt Fox.

Matt Fox: 0:38

Yes, and this over to my right and if you're watching on Facebook, your left.

David Wright: 0:42

I think this would be Davidid r right there you go motor city hypnotist there we go, crashing the party anytime I can crash, man cave is a good day and we are in the drink and I get to hang out we are in the uh tonight show interview. Suite of the podcast, your voice, so we're the guests. Yeah, so you're ed mcmahon, so I'm the special guest.

Matt Fox: 1:04

Yeah, we're not in our home. We're not in our normal home tonight.

David Wright: 1:09

Yeah, we're just a room over, though, proximity-wise.

Matt Fox: 1:13

But yeah, we're mixing it up. But typically we're at a nice big table and you know the lights, the cameras and everything, but this is not our typical recording home.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:24

We did Wizard oz when the when the whiz came out, it wasn't the whiz when wicked. When wicked came up, whiz he's on down he's on down the road when the whiz. Uh, when the wicked came out, we did, uh, the green drink.

David Wright: 1:41

Yes, oh, that's right, the wicked one. Yes, in this suite. Yes, I like mix it up. It's kind of fun to to do in a slightly. The green drink, oh, that's right, the wicked wine.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:45

Yes, in the suite yes, I like mix it up. It's kind of fun to to do in a slightly different spot.

Matt Fox: 1:49

It's podcast.

David Wright: 1:50

And you can do it wherever you want. Wasn't there a Seinfeld with that they use guy Wasn't? Was he the? Was he the whiz? I don't remember to be honest.

Jamie Flanagan: 1:59

There was. It was like the mattress wizard. Yes, that was a mattress. He wore the crown. Yes, I thought that was a friend's thing. Well, and then was it Phil Donahue.

David Wright: 2:11

Kramer had the Merv Griffin set. The Merv Griffin set, yes, the set. Yes, he got a lot of the dumpster and he was like doing and he's having people in.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:19

He started getting some good guests and they're like where are the cameras?

David Wright: 2:22

and he's like he didn't have any cameras he was just talking to people in his living room, he's got the note cards in his hand. Yeah, that was gorgeous.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:29

Yeah, that was fantastic that's why I feel like we're doing the the murph griffin yeah, we are uh for the man cave.

Matt Fox: 2:36

So no, here we are, uh, we are hanging out on a uh on an evening we're going to talk about orphan barrels.

Jamie Flanagan: 2:42

That's why we're not in our orphan bottles that's why we're not in our home.

Matt Fox: 2:45

That's it we got kicked out?

Jamie Flanagan: 2:47

yeah, no, but we'll get, we'll get to those we're going to. So we'll talk about what the orphan bottles are and we'll talk. We'll talk about those. You got a batman, but I wanted to talk to you, matthew fox, and say a massive congratulations ah, oh yeah, uh, the two of you went golfing, yes.

David Wright: 3:03

David and I went golfing.

Matt Fox: 3:04

Matt and I went golfing a week ago today. A week ago today.

David Wright: 3:06

Yep.

Jamie Flanagan: 3:07

It was last Monday. You got yourself a hole-in-one. They call me Ace. And it wasn't even dirty, it wasn't even no, it was a natural hole-in-one. It was clean Right through the windmill into the clown's mouth. Clowns in my house. It was great, it was perfect. But no, this was a legitimate hole-in-one. It was probably. Is this a real?

Matt Fox: 3:28

course an executive course, no, not a real course. Westbourne Golf Club.

David Wright: 3:33

It's a par 72 course or par 71. Maybe it's in Rockwood Michigan.

Matt Fox: 3:38

And it was on hole number 10, so we had just made the turn and it was 185-yard par 3. And knowing how weak I am, I pulled my five iron and I decided to hit it, and it went the right direction well, here's the funny thing I I hit first on that hole.

David Wright: 3:53

Yes, you did, yeah, and put one. As soon as I hit it I was like, oh be good, it was drawing right back towards the flag bounces on the green and probably I I'm on the back side of the green, so I'm probably like 10, 15 feet past the hole, matt comes up the same shape shot, just coming right in towards the flag. I see it bounce and then nothing and I'm like, oh, I lost it. Maybe it rolled to the side or it rolled back, so we weren't sure.

Jamie Flanagan: 4:20

Yeah we hopped in the cart and drove up and I'm like man, I don't see it on the green but I saw it bounce on the green.

Matt Fox: 4:27

Go check that sand trap right on the beach so we walked slowly up to the hole and sure as shit it was in there and Matt's saying, oh, I'm really nervous.

David Wright: 4:36

I bet you it's there, dude. I saw it bounce on the green and there it was it was there.

Matt Fox: 4:42

It was quite the experience. I made it kind of awkward when the celebratory thing came. I tried to hug Dave.

David Wright: 4:47

Oh no, I hugged you.

Matt Fox: 4:50

Oh yeah, but it was still awkward.

David Wright: 4:51

It was awkward when you said take your pants off. That was the only awkward part.

Jamie Flanagan: 4:55

Come on, ace, it was beautiful. It was beautiful the picture. So if you're friends with Matt on the FaceSpace, go to his Facebook.

David Wright: 5:04

I tagged him on it.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:06

They are the pure, unmitigated joy.

David Wright: 5:11

It's like I'm telling you the last nine we could have shit about in every hole, wouldn't?

Matt Fox: 5:16

have mattered. At that point we were fine.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:18

I even said that after that, the next two holes.

Matt Fox: 5:21

After that I couldn't hit the ball more squat Time to retire.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:24

I was like I can't hit the ball. More squat Time to retire.

Matt Fox: 5:25

Yeah, time to retire. But yeah, I was like I can quit right now and I'd be all right for the day. But I toughed it out and we still had a good time and we both shot a pretty good round I mean with your hole in one. Yeah, I was still.

David Wright: 5:38

I think I was at a 90. I was not. And I would say, matt and I are very similar as far as skill range, let's talk about that.

Matt Fox: 5:45

Jamie, that's always good, all right, how long have you been golfing, matt? Let's talk about that.

Jamie Flanagan: 5:49

I'm going to ask Dave first. How long have you been golfing? How long have you had the sticks in your hand? Three years Three years.

David Wright: 5:54

And how old are you? I'll be 60 in September. All long, I don't know. We're not done with dave, because because I played baseball in high school, okay, I ran, or I ran cross country in high school. I played hockey as an adult. So I've always, I've always played sports, but golf was just never in our, in our universe, like my parents didn't golf or anything. So but here's the thing, and I have to give credit to my wife, kendra, she picked it up before I did, oh, oh, wow, about four summers ago. She said I want to start golfing. I'm like hey, go ahead, let's get you some clubs, get you set up get a beginner set, get you out of the house.

David Wright: 6:37

So she met some friends on the golf course and every week they were out and I didn't start that summer and that was probably like COVID year. I'm going to say I didn't start until probably no, probably was a year after.

Jamie Flanagan: 6:47

Talk about social distancing. Were golf courses open through COVID.

David Wright: 6:50

That's a good question.

Matt Fox: 6:51

I think it didn't start until after that, so I started later that I didn't start until September of that summer, so this is my third.

David Wright: 7:01

I'll say my third full summer, okay.

Jamie Flanagan: 7:02

All right. So, matt, you are a man of a certain age.

Matt Fox: 7:06

I'm 50 years old, you're 50. And I picked up my first club around 33 years old. Okay, what took me so long Raising kids, you know money blah, blah, blah. Sure, I've been golfing for 17 years.

Jamie Flanagan: 7:19

Okay.

Matt Fox: 7:20

And it took me 17 years to finally hit it close enough for an ace. But they say for the novice golfer it takes 12,500 par threes to get one ace. So I don't know if I've played 12,500 par threes in my lifetime? I don't think I have.

Jamie Flanagan: 7:41

Yeah, they say statistically somewhere between 1 in 10,000 and 1 in 100,000 for your average golfer to get a hole-in-one, so it's somewhere around 3,500 rounds Jesus yeah, I know I haven't played that much so at 9 or 18.

David Wright: 8:00

But I do have to say those statistics are I'm going to get on a soapbox a little bit they're a little bit skewed because and look at the statistics most amateur golfers will never break 100 as a score.

Matt Fox: 8:14

Sure.

David Wright: 8:15

It's the data's there.

Matt Fox: 8:17

Are you talking 18 or?

David Wright: 8:17

9?, no 18.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:19

So here's the thing my bowling score and my golf scores are upside down. I usually get 300 in golf and 100 in bowling Right exactly. Hey, I get my money's worth you turkey. I get to hit it a lot.

David Wright: 8:32

Yeah, that's true.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:34

So Dave and I are nearly the same age. I'm 59.

Matt Fox: 8:37

Oh yeah, I feel so old.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:41

And I started golfing in fifth grade.

Matt Fox: 8:44

Oh, you were a kid, my dad, I played with my dad.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:46

Oh nice On vacation and my dad would take me golfing. And since my dad passed it's been 14 years, 15 years, Because it was, it was our thing.

David Wright: 8:56

He and I did it.

Jamie Flanagan: 8:57

And then we go out and I don't golf as much anymore. What was really cool Colin took me out the last couple of Father's Days. Yes, Not on Father's Day proper, because that's just stupid.

David Wright: 9:10

Well, yeah, because sports is full of Pay 20.

Matt Fox: 9:12

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 9:14

So like a week later we go just because, well, one, we're cheap and two, we don't like people, so you know. So I really enjoyed golfing with, with Colin and that little SOB yeah, those young men with those strong arms. Yeah, oh my gosh, he's a beast. Yeah, he's good.

David Wright: 9:35

I do 53. No, no, no, three over 300 with all these and all these crazy new clubs and things.

Jamie Flanagan: 9:42

It's nuts so but, Matthew, again congratulations, Thank you.

Matt Fox: 9:49

Fantastic. If it happens again, I will have to play the lotto.

David Wright: 9:53

So did you? What are you doing with the ball? I was more excited than Matt, I think.

Matt Fox: 9:57

I don't know where I put it Because I was still dumb. I was fired up, I kept the ball, I told him.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:02

I said put that ball aside.

David Wright: 10:04

Don't play that ball because it's going to end up in a river or the woods.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:07

So my dad, he got his first hole-in-one. He was playing the Belle Isle. There's a little executive par-3 course on Belle Isle so he's playing that one and there's one hole on that course that has some water on it. So he was using kind of a half-crap ball gets a hole-in one.

David Wright: 10:23

He's using a crappy old X-Out water ball. That's the joke.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:25

He's at home with some nail polish remover, taking the X off of it.

David Wright: 10:29

Yeah, who's George? Why is George written on this?

Matt Fox: 10:32

ball. So I do lose golf balls frequently. So I actually mark all my balls with an M and an F, so it's my MF and ball.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:42

MF and ball.

Matt Fox: 10:43

So I got my MF and ball. Mf and ball, so I got my MF on it.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:46

Which wallet's yours? It's the one that says bad motherfucker.

David Wright: 10:48

You'll know it when you see it.

Jamie Flanagan: 10:54

Actually, one of my students gave me that wallet, Did he? By the time he was a senior and he was one of my movie guys, kyle, he's like he belongs to the Elks now, nice, uh, but yeah. So kyle had given me that, that wallet, and I, you know it's hard to use that wallet. Yeah, you know I love it, but it's like I can't take it in public too often. Yeah, that'd be the right time, right place all.

Matt Fox: 11:21

All right officer Hold on a second.

David Wright: 11:22

Hold this for me, oh but thanks for talking about it, it was a fun time. What are you going to?

Matt Fox: 11:34

do with your ball? What am I going to do with it? I just have it sitting on my dresser. I have no idea they got these little case, like little display things.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:43

You get a plaque made it says like the date and the course and the distance and club used.

David Wright: 11:48

Yeah, all right.

Jamie Flanagan: 11:49

Oh my god because then my dad moved, uh, they moved to florida and they uh, uh, his little executive par three that winds through their, their complex, that he had, uh, and he was like nail, he was like he got, he got three holes and ones. He got his first one there, he got another one there, wow. And then he got three holes in one. He got his first one there, he got another one there Wow. And then he got. You know it's a short.

David Wright: 12:07

It's a little executive course it's one shot. Still it's one shot, no matter where you're doing it.

Jamie Flanagan: 12:12

Yeah. And then so he got his second one. When he got his second one down there, so I got him a golf towel. It says the Heritage. That's uh, this is the heritage. What's the name of the place? Um, and then you know, uh, it had, you know, one through nine on it embroidered. And then I, I had him x out the, the holes, he got the aces on and so he got another one. So I took the towel back and I had that one that's great.

Jamie Flanagan: 12:37

Only ended up with three before he he x'd out, but uh, yeah, uh, yeah, so that was fun. I have that towel now Nice, Getting those holes in ones man. I'm jealous. J-e-l-l-o.

David Wright: 12:53

I have bounced it within a foot of the hole numerous times. I had one that the pitch mark was probably a foot away and it rolled back past the hole. It's been close. You've been golfing for three years and you have backspin.

Matt Fox: 13:06

Yeah, yeah.

David Wright: 13:08

If I use my 52,. Yeah, it spins a lot.

Matt Fox: 13:12

All right, so we're going to talk about whiskey.

David Wright: 13:15

Yes, before we talk about whiskey, that goes along with golf.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:18

Right now we're drinking yeah, we're drinking our welcome cocktail, Dave and I selected the same welcome cocktail of the. Russells yeah, the Russells Reserve, and this is a private barrel select. I had two of these and this one is from. This is a Wine Garden. This is from Tony.

Matt Fox: 13:38

Oh, is that a Brotherhood barrel? Yep.

Jamie Flanagan: 13:40

Brotherhood barrel. So I had one from. This is the Free Tacos Tony, and the other Brotherhood of the barrel. People will know this was the free tacos one. They all come up with a snappy little name for sure they do, but we'll get into that. So I had a cake, I was wanting to have this one, and they were sitting, sitting, sitting, and then I'm like I'm going to crack the bring this peeps uh, and that's what dave picked it yeah, I just picked it out, we're gonna do that off the shelf just to try it yeah, it was like

Matt Fox: 14:07

oh hey, I, I pulled wild turkey 101 in honor of august.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:10

It's the russell family.

Matt Fox: 14:12

It's the russell family, but in honor of august I I did the and we'll get to the beer barrel, uh, bourbon.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:18

Uh, this is almost a dusty at this point, uh, but we'll get to that story in a second. Um, but dave. Um, talking about orphan bottles, we're talking about orphan puppies, but your puppy isn't an orphan but you're adopting a dog.

David Wright: 14:34

It's all about. We're not really adopting. It's from a breeder, yeah, so you're buying. We're buying it, you're adopting yeah, let's go with it I mean, we're giving that adopting for money.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:44

The slaves with jobs, yes, or the prisoners with jobs. I don't like calling them slaves. Prisoners with jobs. Okay, that's better.

Matt Fox: 14:50

Thank you, Mr Goldblum. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 14:52

Prisoners with jobs.

Matt Fox: 14:55

Okay, yeah, yeah, new family member in your household since pippin's since our last dog passed? Yes, so how long has it been since pippin passed away? It was two years in april, so that that's a long time to wait, because a lot of folks will go out immediately and get, yeah, and I, I mean I and I'm just going for my own.

David Wright: 15:16

Everybody's different. I can't judge people for what they do. I, I was, I was not. I'm almost not ready now that's how much of a loss that we all know, every everyone here's lost pets, I'm sure, and it's. It's just a tough, tough thing to go through. Plus, I'll be honest and and my family will agree with this, the pippin I was his person, so we were closer, you know it. Just you fed you, fed him you bathed him.

David Wright: 15:43

I took him for walks and Kendra did a lot of stuff. I'm not taking anything away from her, but he, he was just, he was me. If I was home, he was next to me, he gravitated towards you frequently. Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 15:54

So, but you, you're Very, very soon. Yeah, in about two to three weeks. Okay, how old is?

David Wright: 16:03

the boy a girl. It's a boy. It's about five weeks. I don't know how close we are from this camera, jamie. Yeah, no, probably won't get it, I can throw you.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:12

But you do some good work with rescues there you go, put it right in the camera. Put it right in the camera. There you go.

Matt Fox: 16:23

You can Yep, yep, yep, yep. His eyeball. His eyes are gorgeous, dark blue, just very. He has very wise.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:26

Everybody wants a Charlie in the box.

David Wright: 16:27

Yeah.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:30

Nobody wants a Charlie. Everybody wants that Charlie yeah.

David Wright: 16:34

So yeah, we went out this weekend and kind of visited for a little bit. We held all the puppies.

Jamie Flanagan: 16:39

Ethan.

David Wright: 16:39

Ethan, like I said, it's my son's dog. All right, he had the choice. This is his pick, which which?

Jamie Flanagan: 16:45

I like that's fair so, uh, we just brought a dog into our lives. You do, did you reina um you.

David Wright: 16:54

You talk about dogs on the motor city we do well, we do like an adoption thing every at the end of every podcast episode yeah, and you're not even it, but it's uh the detroit dog rescue yep, detroit, dog and dog from there.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:07

You talk about it, but you're not really.

David Wright: 17:08

You know they don't know that you're doing it, you're just no, no, I'm just doing it just for, for I don't know because we've had christen on human being, the person who runs the ddr.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:17

We've had her on the show with us a couple times. Um, she's what she was on the man.

Matt Fox: 17:21

She was on the show with us a couple of times. She was on the Animal Talk.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:23

She was on Animal Talk once, and then we did an Animal Talk live from the Detroit.

David Wright: 17:27

Shipping Company for a rescue event.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:32

She wasn't on but she was there and we were all raising money for the D&D. But it's cool that you do that, so you're very tied to the rescues. And we paid for Raina that we just brought into our lives, but it was like off a pet finder. It was a private owner who was watching it for, you know, took it over from their aunt.

Jamie Flanagan: 17:51

Couldn't keep it anymore and then they brought it in their house and their dogs weren't getting along with her, so we brought her in. We got her when she was about eight months and had her for about three so far now and working through some she was. She was in a little bit of rough shape.

Jamie Flanagan: 18:07

Oh, that's tough I see that her belly was covered in poop and she was a little. When we got her to the vet, the vet was like she's a I wouldn't say malnutrition, malnutritionist, but she's slightly malnutrition, so it's like all right. So you can see her spine, you can see her ribs. Uh, she's about 35 pounds. She's a shepherd mix. Oh, that's light for a shepherd. Uh, she's a small. Oh, okay, she's a small but she's a mix. So she's a small girl. Uh, she's up to 45 pounds, good, and the vet's like that's right, where she should be. Um, but yeah, so we had a dog named Zoe. Well, when Colleen and I met, she had Zoe and I had my cat, kirby, and it was like we all moved in and everybody moved in together, everybody's kind of getting along together, and Kirby lasted a good 19 years.

Matt Fox: 18:59

He was such a long time, such a great cat, good run, wow, good run.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:02

Wow, good run. And then he left and we got a cat named Norman who ended up having heart problems and like croaked as a kitten. Yikes, because I was like I love cats, you know, and I was actually I didn't get Norman, I was. I do a lot of times in the summer I'll teach up at michigan state for a journalism workshop and I came home from a workshop and norman was there wow, they surprised me with norman and I was like, but then norman kicked, uh, and then so we were like, let's hold off.

Jamie Flanagan: 19:35

So it was about a you know a year. And then, uh, colleen's like we should get another cat and I'm like all right, you know, and we ended we found our guy Percy, who we've had for 11 years now he's still a spunk man. Yeah, he's fun so people check out. So who's Percy named after Percy? Uh, colin named him. Okay, my, my stepson Colin named him. Um, I think it was a football player.

David Wright: 20:00

Okay, Because every time I hear the name Percy I think of the Green Mile.

Jamie Flanagan: 20:03

No, I think the Green Mile. Oh, oh oh, oh yeah. The worst character of any movie ever made.

David Wright: 20:09

What a dickhead in that movie.

Jamie Flanagan: 20:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got his, though he did so. Zoe passed away and Zoe passed away the dog, like five years ago. And Colleenen, I like dogs but I'm a cat guy. Yeah, I love, I love dog, but I'm a cat guy. And and so we, you know, we got the cat and and colleen's like I don't know, are we gonna get another dog, are we gonna do that? And she's like I'm not ready, I don't want you know. And then she and the dog is a lot of responsibility, oh, it's a lot more work you can, you know, leave them on their own.

Jamie Flanagan: 20:39

Sure they like it that way sometimes. Yeah, he's a lover boy, he'll come. But so she was like finally, she was like her girlfriend got a dog. I'm like, just because your girlfriend got a dog pregnant doesn't mean you gotta get dog pregnant you know, just because your girlfriend did heroin doesn't mean you need to do it right, you know.

Jamie Flanagan: 20:57

So, uh, but she ended up, she got her, she, uh, she, she kind of got this bug in her. And then we saw Raina and we kind of saw the situation, and then we're like we'll just go look at her as soon as we saw her we're like this dog is getting in the car with us and coming home because she needs us and she's wonderful. We've had her for about three or four months.

Matt Fox: 21:21

Was it this? Past weekend she was in the backyard with you and the hose was spraying oh my God and she's jumping around into the water.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:25

She is like and we've been having trouble with her with water right, Because again, she's a puppy and when we got her, the day we got her, we put down a bowl of food, Whack Gone, oh you know. And we're like all right, you must be hungry and then we put down a bowl of water Gone, big bowl of water, second bowl of water Gone, third bowl of water Gone. We're like, oh okay, she was really, you know, but we loaded a cannon. Basically is what we did. That was not good.

Matt Fox: 21:56

She has the wall switch.

Jamie Flanagan: 21:58

We loaded a cannon, yeah and so, but then she was in this really bad habit of like if there's water there she's drinking it till.

Matt Fox: 22:08

It's the whole thing.

Jamie Flanagan: 22:09

And if it rains, or in the morning, the dew, she'd like lick, lick, lick, lick, lick in the grass. Yeah, and, and and. But actually just in the last like four days, she's like left a little water in her, in her, in her bowl, and we're like, yes, because she was having accidents and because I mean because she would just well. Yeah, she's like left a little water in her, in her, in her bowl and we're like, yes, because she was having accidents and because I mean because she would just well, yeah, she's so full of liquid yeah, but she's getting better.

Jamie Flanagan: 22:31

And her favorite treat water cookies, ice cubes, oh, ice cubes. It's like if you're the ice.

David Wright: 22:41

He'd come running.

Jamie Flanagan: 22:41

All day long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're getting a glass of water and filling up with ice, she's like ooh, do I get one Water cookie? And I call them water cookies just because you know, dog owners say weird things. So she loves her water cookies. Speaking of water cookies, my bourbon could use a couple water cookies.

David Wright: 22:58

Oh, there you go couple water cookies.

Matt Fox: 23:04

Oh, there you go.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:05

Jamie could use a couple water it's just the ice melts pretty quickly. You know it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. Well, you got that janky. Uh, the tabletop these ice cubes don't last long oh is it because they're smaller in the uh and the way they're? Made you know the amount of air. That's right and everything the way that these. It's a tabletop and here in the Podcast, your Voice studios. It serves its purpose. Yes, we don't have a fridge. I don't In the palatial, in spite of them being palatial.

David Wright: 23:31

It is palatial because I mean, if you had the camera turned around, you'd see our full bar and our snack table and our sodas and waters and no refrigeration.

Matt Fox: 23:40

I'm working on it.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:42

I'm working on it. I'm working on it.

David Wright: 23:46

I think I might have a dorm fridge in my basement somewhere.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:48

I might I need to get a dorm fridge? Yeah, and you can get them on Facebook Marketplace.

Matt Fox: 23:52

You can get one from Home Depot. Yeah, you can go to Home Depot and get yourself a.

Jamie Flanagan: 23:55

Well, they're a little bit more than $50.

Matt Fox: 23:58

You'd be surprised.

David Wright: 23:59

Start a GoFundMe Go, you'd be surprised.

Jamie Flanagan: 24:04

Let's start a GoFundMe. Gofundme for the man cave happy hour.

Jamie Flanagan: 24:10

I've just been too cheap to pull the trigger on a $250 new one at the depot, so I'm going to wait until I can get one for $30 on the Facebook market. I'm just like that, but these ice cubes, these water cookies, melt very, very quickly, like that. But, uh, these ice cubes, these, these water cookies, melt very, very quickly. Yeah, um, when we try things though, we try things, we generally try them um, neat, yeah, uh, and we have two orphan bottles. Is that politically incorrect to call them orphan?

David Wright: 24:33

no, I think orphan is still acceptable term of course, what we have, what do you have in front of you there?

Matt Fox: 24:40

uh, this is the beer barrel, bourbon, the bbb here I'm gonna grab a couple. Of course that does the. Uh, what do you have in front of you there?

Jamie Flanagan: 24:43

This is the Beer Barrel Bourbon, the BBB. Here I'm going to grab a couple Beer Barrel Bourbon.

Matt Fox: 24:46

This is, of course. They put it in American white oak bottles and this is 80 proof. Right, it's distilled by New Holland.

Jamie Flanagan: 24:55

It comes from New Holland. Interesting thing about New Holland in Michigan he's got some tasters over there.

Matt Fox: 24:59

Either are, yeah, here take that New Holland in Michigan.

Jamie Flanagan: 25:01

He's got some tasters over there. Either are yeah here, take that.

Matt Fox: 25:03

Oh, you got those Okay sorry.

Jamie Flanagan: 25:04

I got big cups.

David Wright: 25:05

I thought we were going to pour the whole bottle. All good Ouch.

Jamie Flanagan: 25:10

New Holland was a dry county in Michigan. It's on the west coast of Michigan. Everybody's playing along at home getting your Atlas out, putting pins in for where bourbons come from. That you we've tried on the man cave, they're people. They have the pins going. Um, oh yeah, and some people color code them to whether it was a cocktail or just a bourbon. But yeah, they got their maps going. So if you're adding a pin to the map, this is new holland, which was a dry county. Yeah, which was interesting, because the reason I know that is because let's go back to my stepson Colin in his younger days playing hockey and there'd be hockey tournaments on the west side of the state in New Holland and we'd have to drive a little ways to get to the next county to have our parents' shenanigans at the hockey tournaments.

Matt Fox: 25:58

So it's been sitting so long that the foil doesn't even want to cooperate.

Jamie Flanagan: 26:02

So we've been doing the man cave since what was it? You got it. When did we start the man cave? 10? Night, 11? 2019.

David Wright: 26:10

Has it been that long?

Jamie Flanagan: 26:12

Really no, not nine, because I was married. We were in my house in Troy.

Matt Fox: 26:18

When we started the man cave. It's been eight years.

Jamie Flanagan: 26:21

Eight years.

Matt Fox: 26:21

Eight years, nice, when we started the pancake. It's been eight years, eight, eight years we've been doing this.

Jamie Flanagan: 26:25

Nice, we've been doing this a while. Um, this bottle from uh. They sent it to us and never we're like, okay, yeah, you know, we'll get one of your reps on, and we went back and forth in emails and then this person quit, that person quit that I seem that we're gonna with blake's. We were trying to talk about some stuff with Blake's. We talked to our other rep who's still there at Blake's. He's like oh yeah, everybody in that email chain is gone. Wow, All those women are gone.

David Wright: 26:52

It's not a good sign for a company. We went back and forth.

Matt Fox: 26:56

They move quite a bit in that industry though.

Jamie Flanagan: 26:57

Yeah, the bottle here that we have this is from earlier. Let's hear that cork pop. Get that pop going. Where is it? It's probably broken. Break the cork. It's been sitting for six years.

Matt Fox: 27:16

No that's a cork Boy, that's squeaky.

Jamie Flanagan: 27:17

I hear that squeaky Get it, Matt Get it.

Matt Fox: 27:20

Come on Do it lady. This is why I used a five iron on 185 yard.

David Wright: 27:25

Yeah, oh, that was a weak one that's a smaller bottle.

Jamie Flanagan: 27:33

Well, that's true. So now here's the other thing. Right, so this was good seven years ago and they sent us this bottle. Thank you very much. Beer barrel bourbon is that the name of it? Am I getting that right? Beer barrel bourbon? So, uh, from new holland, they sent this to us, uh, and we were going to talk to the rep and talk about it and so, and then it just got put on the shelf and it's just been sitting orphaned on the shelf because we haven't and there's been so many other fun things and great people we've talked to it's just sat there and I'm like we got to do this and I was like I got to call them and get a person. Oh, and we will, we'll get somebody from them on, because they were very, very generous and sent us the bottle Doesn't mean we have to like her saying I say so. Here's the other thing.

Matt Fox: 28:19

This is early on in their company. This could be young right.

Jamie Flanagan: 28:22

Because I don't know if it's sourced. Does it say where it's distilled?

Matt Fox: 28:27

It's distilled by New Holland Bourbon whiskey. It's finished in oak barrels, rested in New York barrels for before a three-month beer slumber. It sat in the barrels for three months. It was wasted in New York barrels before a three-month beer-y slumber. It sat in the barrels for three months. Is this whiskey or bourbon?

Jamie Flanagan: 28:51

This is bourbon beer barrel. Bourbon, it's bourbon, so it's got to be two years in the wood. I'm assuming, because it's called beer barrel, that they're putting them in beer barrels so after two years in in in new oak barrels, not necessarily american oak spencer, if you're watching right um? I'd have to look it up online so they, they do the um, they probably do a beer barrel finish yep, what are you getting on the nose?

Jamie Flanagan: 29:21

I it's it's very I got it, I got a fruit. I got a fruit and I'm not I don't want to say it to influence you but I'm getting a fruit and I'm not getting young, so sometimes those young ones, you get the ethanol burn I'm not getting it.

David Wright: 29:33

I'm just gonna say I'm not getting a burn.

Jamie Flanagan: 29:35

I was expecting that, because this was like, this is a. You know it was bottled seven to eight years ago, so so let me ask this and since I'm not, I'm not learned, as learned as the two of you.

David Wright: 29:46

But but does does bourbon go over like wine? Does eventually.

Jamie Flanagan: 29:51

No, once it's in the bottle, that's that Okay, it is what it is.

David Wright: 29:54

It doesn't turn over like wine could, right, right.

Jamie Flanagan: 29:57

Yeah. Yeah, it can go bad in a bottle.

David Wright: 30:00

Okay, if some of the cork falls in or if there's an impurity in there it can go bad, but if it's sealed and sealed well, it's good for forever.

Matt Fox: 30:10

It took me forever to open it, so it is sealed well.

Jamie Flanagan: 30:14

Yeah, but once the aging is done in the barrels and it's in a bottle, that's that, and it is what it is. That's the age statement of it and if it doesn't get tainted, yeah there's like no burn on the nose at all. No, I was a little worried because it was early in their career.

Matt Fox: 30:27

We've had a few young bourbons, yeah, and on the young bourbons I would always kind of get a green pepper taste Right Of the bourbon itself. Okay.

Jamie Flanagan: 30:43

I'm kind of feeling a little green pepperish. Are you? Yeah, are you?

Matt Fox: 30:45

I was getting a fruit? Are you getting any fruit? You're getting green pepper, a green pepper. If I had, if I had to give that nose a fruit name, I would almost go apricot.

David Wright: 30:51

Okay, like a like, a like or a plum dave you got anything in there yeah, just thinking about fruit and vegetable, both I I I can get both of them.

Jamie Flanagan: 31:03

Animal, vegetable, mineral.

David Wright: 31:05

All right.

Jamie Flanagan: 31:07

But anything in particular that you want to name. I have one I want to name, but I don't want to be suggestive.

David Wright: 31:15

Like a little bit of wood, like a little bit of oaky.

Jamie Flanagan: 31:20

Yeah, it's a nice oaky, for sure.

David Wright: 31:23

Right.

Jamie Flanagan: 31:25

I get a cherry, but a light, light cherry. Light cherry, so not like a Lanzaro cherry like a Maraschino, just something cherry like way in the background, I get what you're saying. Yeah, all right Time to sit. Cherry like a marsh, you know. Just just something way cherry like way in the background.

David Wright: 31:35

I I get what you're saying, yeah all right time to say okay, you're talking about the damn thing cheers I don't like how it sits in the back of my palate.

Jamie Flanagan: 31:49

I'll be honest with you it's kind of it, it almost oh, there's all kinds of yeah, there's all kinds of things going on I might my first reaction first.

Matt Fox: 31:59

That was just the first, not all.

David Wright: 32:00

I'm good, my first reaction is just is flat yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah, it just. It just feels flat.

Matt Fox: 32:07

It's got a little bit of a warmth on it. Though, now that you've said apricot, and as I'm tasting this, there's like other fruits.

Jamie Flanagan: 32:11

I'm not getting a cherry in here, but I'm getting an apricot might. As I'm tasting this. There's like other fruits. I'm not getting a cherry in here, but I'm getting an african might be a good, uh, good name for it. Hold that bottle up to light. Is it cloudy at all? Did I just poison you guys? No, it all right. No, it's clear. No, it was sitting on the black table.

Matt Fox: 32:28

It looks like it looks like something you would put a uh, a mosquito in to get the dino dna. That's kind of the color.

David Wright: 32:37

But I think the color. Oh damn, I just spilled mine, are you kidding, anyway, I was just saying to Matt, looking at the bottle. It looked a lot lighter than what's in my cup the shading it just looked very pale.

Jamie Flanagan: 32:52

The Russell's is what we have in our cup. See the Russells sat how long?

David Wright: 32:56

That's true, but I'm comparing the Russell to this one as far as the bottle goes. This Russell, this is a private barrel yeah, that's a good.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:02

It's a barrel select. This is a single barrel, yeah that's got a very so it's got some nice color in it. That's a dark amber bit longer than three years. It's dark.

David Wright: 33:18

Or they'd use a different char in the barrel.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:20

Oh yeah, 10 years. See, it's a 10-year, and three years. So October of 13, and then January, February, March, April, May. So nine and a half years on the Russells. Nine and a half years on the Russells.

David Wright: 33:38

Nine and a half years on the Russells, and how much on the other one.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:42

Well, it's got to be two years. It doesn't?

Matt Fox: 33:44

I don't know, At least two years it had a berry slumber for.

Jamie Flanagan: 33:48

And then another three years with three months, with whatever beer barrel they finished. Maybe it's the finish, maybe it's the beer, maybe it's the beer barrels bringing those other flavors in.

David Wright: 34:01

Oh, you know what? It's funny? You say that, jamie, because as soon as I finish that shot glass, I'm getting the beer flavor. It's sitting right now in my mouth like I just had a beer. Really, it feels that way. No, no, no, no the taste.

Matt Fox: 34:16

Oh, all right it's just on the back of your palate. Yeah, it is.

Jamie Flanagan: 34:20

It's just it's the back of my palate feels like a hoppy beer flavor I'm not, but I'm not getting ethanol no, there's no ethanol, there's an odd, an odd flavor. And again, um, I wouldn wouldn't mind getting a current bottle right.

Matt Fox: 34:38

I wouldn't mind that either. I would like to try it. It would be nice to compare it over the last.

David Wright: 34:41

I was just going to say it'd be nice to compare a younger one to an older one.

Jamie Flanagan: 34:44

Yeah, we might do that. That'll be another episode.

Matt Fox: 34:47

There we go, Maybe Matt would you like to compare a younger one to an older one. He said it. He said it. You picked up on it.

Jamie Flanagan: 34:58

I just laughed at it, you can see in the camera how red Matthew is.

David Wright: 35:04

That's the sunburn, no because Matthew's been out on the golf course a lot recently.

Matt Fox: 35:09

That's where it all came from. Last Monday was my first time out this season, david, how many times have you?

David Wright: 35:14

been out. That's even effing worse.

Jamie Flanagan: 35:16

You get an effing hole-in-one on your first time out.

David Wright: 35:19

This is like my 50th round of the season.

Jamie Flanagan: 35:21

I want to try some more of the beer barrel. I want to try a little bit more. I mean, you did a nice light pour.

David Wright: 35:29

And it was a small bottle cheap SOBs that almost looks like a pint. It's a 350. Yeah, the 350, not a 750.

Jamie Flanagan: 35:35

Cheap sons of guns. They sent us a free bottle.

Matt Fox: 35:38

Yeah, Come on man. They're probably going to throw it out and they just said here we go. I'm kidding, I joke.

Jamie Flanagan: 35:46

I kid, because I kid no.

Matt Fox: 35:49

I would actually use this as a really nice mixer. I wouldn't drink it neat. I would actually use this as a really nice mixer. I wouldn't drink it neat. I would actually put a couple of cubes in there to see how it opens up. Oh yeah.

David Wright: 35:59

Oh, that's a good thought.

Matt Fox: 36:00

And then use that as a mixer more than anything else, because you could make some pretty good cocktails with that, because it's got enough of a warmth to it I don't want to say the word bite, but it's got enough to it that it would actually stand up on a cocktail, See, I?

David Wright: 36:14

kind of disagree a little bit. I think there's not enough bite To me.

Matt Fox: 36:18

it just like I said the flat is the best way I can describe it. After drinking Wild Turkey 101, I still got a little bit of a bite on that one.

Jamie Flanagan: 36:24

Is it white oak? American white oak?

David Wright: 36:29

Yeah, Finish in oak barrels or that I'm just a wussy.

Matt Fox: 36:37

Well, I was going gonna say it man but you got the whole one and I just did a new ark barrels before a three-month beery slumber.

Jamie Flanagan: 36:41

yeah, so it's sad. And uh, so the the american oak for two and then three months in in a beer. Okay, I get a grassy scotchy finish really Really, yeah, but it's not smoky scotchy, it's just like a grassy, not a rye. I wonder what the mash bill is on this bad boy.

Matt Fox: 37:03

I don't know if I can pull it up quick enough. We'll find out.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:06

New Holland Spirits. They're in New Holland, michigan. They do whiskey, gin, rum, so all the clears, right All those clear spirits just want to grow up and whiskey gin rum. So all the clears right which you know, all those clear spirits just want to grow up and be bourbon one day really, Of course. Well, to us anyway, yeah, so yeah, but yeah, I'm glad I have a bottle of this. I'm glad I have this to share.

David Wright: 37:33

I'm glad I have it to try. The company is Holland Brewing Company.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:37

New Holland.

Matt Fox: 37:38

New Holland.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:39

Beer Barrel Bourbon is the brand name, but it's New Holland Distillery. The company is New Holland.

Matt Fox: 37:44

It's actually finished in Dragon's Milk barrels. That's what they finish it in for those two months, three months.

Jamie Flanagan: 37:51

Is that that beer place on 696 there here in the Metro detroit area? I think so. I think it is yes, dragons, no, that dragons meat, that's dragons me no, this is fun on the label there's uh little dragons the dragons milk.

David Wright: 38:03

I've tried and it's very like the beer part the dragons milk. That same company I'm assuming if they're using the name. But new holland, yeah, very like. But New Holland, very heavy and bitter, but not like a Guinness More, if I can say it. It's almost heavier than that.

Jamie Flanagan: 38:24

So this was early in their incarnation. They were nice enough to send it to us and then again it was just crossing paths and never got their rep on and just sat there and I'm like, let's take care of these orphan bottles, absolutely, yeah. Same thing with this, the Russell's, which we did our welcome and it was a nice pick. This one came from Tony's, I had another one from Keiko's and then I went my basement. I'm like why do I have all this Russell's just sitting here? I'm like I got to take these and like share them with people, and I cracked one at home. I had some of my fraternity brothers over and, uh, we cracked the one and people jumped into it, and then this one, uh, so 23, yeah, so it's been sitting. I've had this for two and a half years.

Jamie Flanagan: 39:09

I I am enjoying the russell's, yeah, I do like that and I'm like I just uh, because it's a thing. I don't collect bourbons. I'm not buying them to collect them and have them on there and show them off. I buy them to drink them and share them with friends and make the cocktails with them. This guy has been sitting. I've had two of these sitting. I got the other one not much longer after this one.

David Wright: 39:34

When you go from the beer barrel to the Russell's. It's got a bite to it, which is good. I like that in a whiskey.

Jamie Flanagan: 39:45

Yeah, because the Russell's is 55%, 110 proof.

Matt Fox: 39:51

That's a hot tamale. 110 is a hot tamale for some folks, so the beer barrel's coming in at 40.

Jamie Flanagan: 39:55

Oh, that's a hot tamale. 110 is a hot tamale for some folks. So the beer barrel's coming in at 40. Oh, that's the difference.

Matt Fox: 39:59

For the janky low 375 milliliter bottle, I would say for me that had a little bit of a bite for me at 80 proof.

Jamie Flanagan: 40:06

Yeah.

Matt Fox: 40:07

Which is why I think it would actually not lose much in a cocktail. Yeah, you know I'm enjoying it. Yeah, it a cocktail, I'm enjoying it. It took me a second to get used to that beer barrel finish. I don't think I've ever had Dragon's Milk, if I'm being totally honest, so I wouldn't know what to compare the beer barrel to. Like a Guinness, it's a stout, yeah.

David Wright: 40:33

In this one. Like I said, I do get that beer finish like after it sits for a while on the palate.

Jamie Flanagan: 40:41

So they're the Dragon Milk Sparrels. Yeah, High barley mash bill lends flavor profile of stone fruit. Okay, whatever stone fruit is Sweet malt, while our copper pot is copper pot, still All right. And dragon milk, stout casks. So the stout casks.

Matt Fox: 41:01

Well, that's that complexity, I think. Is it New Holland also Coppercraft?

Jamie Flanagan: 41:07

It adds richness and notes of butterscotch, fresh bread and stouted oak.

David Wright: 41:11

The stouted oak is what I'm getting Stouted oak. What was the first thing you read? Jamie Butterscotch. I'm not getting the butterscotch on it because I love butterscotch.

Matt Fox: 41:23

Is Coppercraft and New Holland the same company, coppercraft?

Jamie Flanagan: 41:28

They are in New Holland.

Matt Fox: 41:31

That's probably my confusion. You know you could make it a daily drinker if you want something that's not going to.

Jamie Flanagan: 41:36

Coppercraft Distillery is their own distillery.

Matt Fox: 41:38

Okay, thank you.

Jamie Flanagan: 41:39

They happen to be in New Holland as well.

Matt Fox: 41:42

No, it's not.

Jamie Flanagan: 41:43

Holland, not New Holland. They're just Holland, they're Holland, they are OG Holland.

David Wright: 41:50

Well, yeah not like this new Asgard crap.

Matt Fox: 41:54

Who the king's the king, who's the king? Oh the Asgardians of the galaxy After that All right.

Jamie Flanagan: 42:05

that's good man. That's Beer, Barrel Bourbon, it's available. I see it around. I see it around on the shelves in.

Matt Fox: 42:11

Detroit.

Jamie Flanagan: 42:14

I do want to get a current bottle.

David Wright: 42:15

Yeah, I'd like to get an updated one and compare it. That would be a good one.

Matt Fox: 42:21

Bring in the distiller, you know.

Jamie Flanagan: 42:23

Yeah, I know we could. They were nice enough, I mean, you know, and we were just.

David Wright: 42:27

Yeah, there might be somebody who hasn't quit that they can help us.

Matt Fox: 42:32

I know August would want us to. There's only some sort of brand rep that could. I know August would want us to mention that Magnum, magnum 12. Ooh, yeah, it's coming up here pretty soon in. September it is yes, and we're going to start Blake's.

Jamie Flanagan: 42:46

Blake's is one of the title sponsors.

Matt Fox: 42:48

Title sponsors for it and it's at the Eastern Palace Club in Hazel Park, hazel Tucky. So so, yeah, that's in September and that is something that you will be at, jamie, I know I will be there. You should come and visit.

David Wright: 43:03

I'll come and join you. I'll crash a party on the occasion.

Jamie Flanagan: 43:05

Palace is a party, magnum's a party. It's a double the party, double the fun, and it's all for a good cause.

Matt Fox: 43:12

For the New Hero Foundation.

Jamie Flanagan: 43:14

Community House.

David Wright: 43:17

It's for charity, oh perfect, I'll be there, yeah sure, charity, that girl charity, sweet it's for charity different. No different charity.

Matt Fox: 43:25

It is a charity nice. Thank you charity all right.

Jamie Flanagan: 43:29

so if she calls you daddy, can you take her as a dependent? Sorry, that's inappropriate. That's the welcome cocktail. Talking right there, it's just now kicking in. How did this suddenly digress?

David Wright: 43:46

What kind of a radio show is this? I did it.

Jamie Flanagan: 43:50

It's funny because we're here in the Tonight Show show, there's another show recording in the other room and I think they're afraid to come out.

David Wright: 43:59

You think they're down and afraid to come out.

Matt Fox: 44:01

Yeah.

David Wright: 44:01

They could be.

Matt Fox: 44:03

I'd be afraid.

Jamie Flanagan: 44:05

Anyway, congratulations on the dog, thank you.

Matt Fox: 44:07

Congratulations on the hole in one Thank you, thank you, cheers, cheers, cheers, gentlemen Clink.

David Wright: 44:14

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Matt Fox: 44:17

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Jamie Flanagan: 44:20

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Matt Fox: 44:25

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Jamie Flanagan: 44:25

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