Man Cave Happy Hour
Welcome to Man Cave Happy Hour – Whiskey, Spirits, and the stories that go along with them.
Join Jamie, Matt, and August as they take you on a spirited journey through the world of fine drinks and fascinating conversations. Broadcasting live from top lounges, distilleries, and happy hours, they explore the best new spirits, uncover hidden gems, and dive into the stories behind the bottles.
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Man Cave Happy Hour
Booze Cruising: From Widow Jane to Chartreuse with Mickey Lyons (It's not easy being green)
The Man Cave Happy Hour crew welcomes Detroit writer Mickey Lyons for an evening of spirit exploration and storytelling. After sampling the underwhelming Widow Jane bourbon (dubbed "aggressively mediocre" by the hosts), the conversation transforms when August introduces a rare bottle of green Chartreuse.
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This legendary liqueur, crafted by Carthusian monks according to a 1770 secret recipe featuring 130+ botanicals, captivates everyone with its complex flavor profile. As the group savors notes of cardamom, anise, and countless herbs, Mickey explains why this spirit has become nearly impossible to find – the monks have drastically reduced production to focus on their meditative lifestyle rather than meeting skyrocketing demand.
The evening peaks with the creation of a "Last Word" cocktail, a Detroit Athletic Club classic from 1916 featuring equal parts Chartreuse, gin, Luxardo cherry liqueur, and lime juice. Mickey, whose writing celebrates Michigan's rich drinking culture, shares details about her upcoming adventure as a "Lake Lorien" (lecturer) on Great Lakes cruise ships, where she'll spend two months sharing regional history with passengers.
Between sips, the conversation weaves through Detroit's historic bar scene, from the legendary Stonehouse to the Prohibition-era establishments that shaped the city's character. These stories remind us how deeply spirits are intertwined with local heritage and community connection.
Whether you're a spirits enthusiast, Michigan history buff, or simply appreciate good storytelling among friends, join us for this spirited journey through rare liqueurs, regional history, and the captivating stories behind what we drink.
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Intro: 0:02
I said, hey, hey, welcome to the man Cave Happy Hour. I said, hey, hey, welcome to the man Cave Happy Hour. We're gonna drink a fine whiskey and smoke a really fine cigar.
Jamie: 0:24
It is time for Happy Hour. It is the man Cave Happy Hour Whiskey, cigar, spirits, the stories that go along with it. I'm Jamie Flanagan. I'm Matt Fox, that's Matt.
August: 0:34
Fox.
Matt Fox: 0:34
No, that's August, Gitchlag.
August: 0:35
Oh, hey, you're talking about me. I'm next. I'm August Gitchlag.
Matt Fox: 0:38
Oh my gosh, we have a full house. We have a full house More. We have a full house, more than full.
Jamie: 0:41
We got a full house, we're doing bourbon, we're doing chartreuse and we're hanging out With friends.
Matt Fox: 0:46
Yes, yes, we are.
August: 0:47
We got some storytellers With us tonight.
Matt Fox: 0:49
We have storytellers. And we've got people that. We have folks that can tell stories, but they're not going to.
August: 0:53
Right, I considered Wayne One of the storytellers.
Jamie: 0:59
Don't think for a second Stories about you. Back, wayne. He was there at episode one, so tell me it was.
Mickey Lyons: 1:05
It was crazy.
Jamie: 1:11
We did it live from Godfathers and we were playing Battleship.
August: 1:15
It was crazy, you guys have done one cigar episode since I joined you, yeah.
Jamie: 1:20
I'm trying to keep you healthy.
August: 1:22
I'm doing it for you guys. I want to keep doing this for another 20 years 's it, you know so that's it.
Jamie: 1:28
So I got my my little cheers mug.
August: 1:33
Oh, george went yeah, cheers bears yeah, no, the pope skit I know, no, the pope not in good health, couldn't do the pope oh I was like.
Jamie: 1:43
I was like man, they left that one on the table. How did they not do that? And then he's like oh, oh, georgie wasn't doing good, oh did?
August: 1:51
I just watched. Uh, I just started watching that show poker face yeah and I, we haven't watched it. It's on peacock, episode two. Uh, john rathlisberger, you know. Uh, cliff clavin, he's on the show, he must, must be 400 pounds. Now I was like, oh my God.
Wayne: 2:06
Really I go that's not him.
August: 2:07
That's someone else and Catherine's like no, that has to be him. That voice is distinctive.
Matt Fox: 2:12
I'm like yeah, he is the voice of the piggy. That can't be him. He's huge. Yeah, he's the voice of the piggy bank in Toy Story.
August: 2:19
Absolutely I was like John, you don't look good, you're going to be next man.
Jamie: 2:25
Some DJ posted a picture of John and George and them at the Motor City Comic Con just last year and George did not. George did not look good, but John didn't look that big. I mean he looked bigger than you know.
August: 2:41
Whenever they filmed episode two, season one, episode two of Poker Face yeah, he was looking rough, maximum density. Hopefully he's better now. That other voice you hear Das, yeah, that's me. That is the legendary Detroit's own Mickey Lyons. I am so excited that you're here tonight.
Mickey Lyons: 2:56
Mickey, I can't believe I haven't done this with you guys. We were at.
Jamie: 3:00
Toko Roro, you were there while we talked to the guys at Toko Roro.
Matt Fox: 3:06
We were at the Kaju Cafe while we did an episode.
August: 3:09
Were you at the one with Conrad's trunk at Whiskey in the Jar.
Jamie: 3:13
No, no, she wasn't. Conrad is a magical fox, the infamous trunk.
August: 3:17
We invited him, he said hey, come up here and see Gannett. But he did. We sent him back out to get his trunk of whiskey, not knowing that his car was the whole point of the podcast.
Jamie: 3:23
Oh yeah, yeah, surprised him. So it was magical and fun, Yep, but so, mickey, you've been near the show, you haven't been on the show. So before we roll any further, mickey, tell me about your childhood.
Mickey Lyons: 3:36
Yeah, my childhood.
Jamie: 3:38
I don't know where I was expecting to go with that, all right Story time to go with that.
Mickey Lyons: 3:44
all right story time a posthumous chat no um a basket in the rouge river in amongst the distillery that was found at canadian club distillery uh, I grew up in farmington, um and uh, yeah, just great well, riding bikes around the neighborhood and swimming in the swimming pool.
Jamie: 4:05
But you do a lot of writing now.
Mickey Lyons: 4:07
Yes, I do.
Jamie: 4:09
And so what's your main outlet? Because writers today write for a thousand different places at once. What's your main outlet?
Mickey Lyons: 4:17
My most steady ongoing regular one is I have a monthly column in our Detroit magazine and it's called.
August: 4:22
Drinks hey Simple, which we can say was just recently nominated regular one is I have a monthly column in our Detroit magazine, okay, and it's called drinks hey simple, which we can say was just recently nominated.
Mickey Lyons: 4:29
That uh for a different publication. I uh have been nominated for a James Beard media. Oh nice.
Matt Fox: 4:38
Congratulations. That's the the honor to be nominated.
Jamie: 4:42
Where'd you do your journalism training?
Mickey Lyons: 4:44
Um high school. So, yeah, my background. After high school I went to art school, dropped out of art school, moved back to Michigan for a while, went back to school, got an English degree from Wayne state, go warriors, did a master's in Irish language and literature at Boston college and then did a fair portion ABD all but dissertation in Victorian literature from the University of Connecticut. Wow, victorian literature Victorian literature.
August: 5:13
How close to Dr Mickey are you?
Mickey Lyons: 5:16
I am three chapters of a dissertation away.
August: 5:18
Wow so.
Mickey Lyons: 5:19
I'm a professor because I took all the exams and all that but did not finish the dissertation on aesthetic theory in the Victorian novel novel. What are you waiting for? Because writing about booze is way more fun trust me, it is.
August: 5:34
I've been been lucky enough to join her on some of her adventures you did like the early bars at 7 am that's the one that got nominated. That's the one that got nominated. Actually, like august was part of that, he was, he was ranting about that.
Jamie: 5:44
He was like we got to go drink early in the morning.
August: 5:48
On purpose. I left my job, I got a golden pair, I got a big check. I'm just sitting around.
Wayne: 5:52
I'm like I'm going to get up at 9 in the morning.
August: 5:54
8 in the morning and go join them after the 7 o'clock.
Jamie: 5:58
So, mickey, on discover different spirits. Sometimes we do cocktails, sometimes we talk to people that make them. Today we were going to do a little Widow Jane, you poured a Guinness on the way in.
Mickey Lyons: 6:14
That's sort of my level tasting palate.
August: 6:18
Right after Jamie's heart. That's it.
Jamie: 6:21
I'm a Guinness boy. I'm a one-trick pony, nice. If I'm at a bar, I'm like, yeah, guinness, it. I'm a Guinness boy. I'm a one-trick pony, nice. If I'm at a bar, I'm like, yeah, guinness. They're like no, I'm like give me a PBR, it's like all right at that point they're like no, we have this other chocolate malt milk chair.
August: 6:33
You can suffer through a Murphy's, though Murphy's is delicious, yes yes, yes, I caught you ordering a Smithix once.
Jamie: 6:42
Oh, I drank a Smithix.
August: 6:43
Oh, heck, yeah, I caught you. Yeah, yeah, you cheated on your beloved the Balmers.
Mickey Lyons: 6:48
Oh no, they marry together. Well, they do. Yeah, yeah, they do.
Jamie: 6:55
But yeah, I love the Guinness. But as far as the spirits go, Miggy, do you have a go-to for spirits?
August: 7:06
I think it depends on the time of day I've been on a gin and tonic kick lately, but now that it's cold again right now, I'm back to the nervous.
Matt Fox: 7:08
That is a weather-dependent cocktail, isn't it? Oh yeah, what type of gin do you gravitate towards? All of it?
Mickey Lyons: 7:14
I love a good floral. I've been on, actually, a citrusy gin kick right now. I just went up north with some friends for the weekend weekend and we started what we've dubbed the ginfinity bottle oh, so it's like a bourbon infinity bottle.
August: 7:31
Yeah, I don't know. Sounds like a marvel character. I need to know.
Jamie: 7:34
Yeah, no it sounds like the silver surfer.
Mickey Lyons: 7:37
It's turning it's twisting, it's gonna fuck you up, yeah so the infinity bottle is you take the last if you've only got an ounce or two of a bourbon or something like that. You marry them all together, so you make this completely unique magic. Yes, but we decided to do it with Jim because we just happen to have six different countries.
August: 7:56
It makes more sense to me than bourbon does, to be honest with you.
Matt Fox: 8:00
I'm gonna add a little bee feeder just to level it off.
August: 8:04
Who put the lavender shit in there? Who put that lavender shit in there? I don't know what likes that Hendrix.
Jamie: 8:13
Monsignor Zenz does.
Wayne: 8:15
Colleen does?
Jamie: 8:15
She sent me to Keiko's to get some Hendrix, and Monsignor Zenz was walking out with the last bottle. Wow, I had to go home empty handed.
August: 8:26
Couldn't jump the fryer.
Jamie: 8:27
She yelled at him at church next Sunday.
August: 8:30
You know you took the last of the Hendrix. Speaking of friars and Monsignors the other spirit we have tonight is chartreuse, made by French monks in a secret recipe, and we have some chartreuse versions here. Yeah.
Jamie: 8:46
I know. I don't know if I've had actual it's like at least three of them.
August: 8:49
That's why I got a jigger Cause you're not going to do more than an ounce of this at this price.
Jamie: 8:53
This is an impossible to find bottle.
Matt Fox: 8:58
I bought it out of a bar. Yes, I bought it out of a bar?
August: 9:00
Yes, because I talked to the owner and got a bit of it. Are they allowed to?
Jamie: 9:04
Well no, they got off premise. Oh sure, no, no, no, I'm still not going to out it.
Mickey Lyons: 9:09
The monks have just about stopped making it. They've drastically limited production.
August: 9:13
There used to be a wall of it at the restaurant Chartreuse and that wall is gone because they had to serve it all.
Jamie: 9:21
Yeah, all right, so Chartreuse what is chartreuse? Good question Is it a sherry? Is it a liqueur? No, it's a.
Mickey Lyons: 9:28
It's 130 plus different botanicals.
Jamie: 9:30
It's 100 bucks If you can find it, 137 different botanicals.
Mickey Lyons: 9:35
They're 130 something different botanicals Anise, cardamom.
August: 9:41
I think it's absolutely the most unique spirit.
Jamie: 9:44
Yeah, huh, it's also like 130 proof. I think it's absolutely the most unique spirit ever.
August: 9:47
It's also like 130 proof. It's very strong oh boy.
Wayne: 9:50
Made some mint syrup a couple years back. It looked a lot like that.
Mickey Lyons: 9:54
Did not taste like that. No, I'm guessing not, I mean, I remember it being common enough that we were doing shots of this at the Comet Bar. Oh yeah, I was doing it at Club FT Me and Dave were dripping chartreuse all the time.
Wayne: 10:05
Yeah and then because there was like three people that wanted it then then detroit turned into a high-end booze scene.
Jamie: 10:11
Right, right, right and all the fancy restaurants. Yeah for promoting high-end booze.
August: 10:15
Yeah, thanks all these leather apron motherfuckers we can't get anymore at my local dive bar right yep, yep I You're part of that problem.
Jamie: 10:25
We have two things to taste. We have Widow Jane. I had a bottle that was gifted to me over the holidays. We've never tried it, so I thought we would give it a try. Then August was trying to show off. There's a friend, hey, he brought in the shark tree. I just pick it up.
August: 10:46
It's fine. I'm wearing a scarf today. I'm celebrating my team's big victory today.
Matt Fox: 10:50
That's right, my.
August: 10:51
Tottenham Hotspurs beat Manchester United.
Jamie: 10:54
Yeah, tater tots.
August: 10:58
Red Devils red sock. Anyway, both of the teams are in 16th and 17th place. It's a little victory, but I never get a chance to wear my scarf out so well. There you go. It's a little warm so I'm gonna take it off in a minute.
Jamie: 11:11
Sorry, um but what do we want to do first? Do we want to try the widow jane? We want to give that a little, just a taste.
Matt Fox: 11:16
Well, what's which one has got, the more proof to it.
Jamie: 11:18
The widow jane oh, the chartreuse, yeah for sure, I say we start low and go high, oh, by far this is going to blow your mouth up.
Wayne: 11:27
Yeah, it is.
Jamie: 11:28
Misled by the word liqueur.
August: 11:31
Which part of Jane's is 110?
Jamie: 11:33
Matt, do you remember anything about it? You were perusing the website. I was. Do you remember anything about the Widow Jane? Let's go there first. So the 10 year there's a lot of different expressions, right.
Matt Fox: 11:44
Yes, there are. I'm actually. I went to the BreakingBourboncom website so this is coming in at a 91 proof Coming in at 91. And this is age 10 years. The mash bill? We have no idea. It's undisclosed. Reason being is because it is a what's one of your favorite types of bourbons. Oh, it's a blend. It's a blend, right.
Jamie: 12:11
But this is kind of a, not the kind of blood that says, hey, we're a blend other ones that say it's uh mixed here in brooklyn no sleep, so I didn't have my laptop to play the team.
Matt Fox: 12:19
I'm unfairly knocking it ahead of time, so they bring all the juice together, but they do something really unique is that they bring in water from 100 miles away from a mine they were talking about the water.
Jamie: 12:29
The water was the thing is. It comes from a mine somewhere in the new york.
Matt Fox: 12:33
It's about 100 miles from the actual distillery in brooklyn, new york, uh that they're located in so and it's the yep, there should be a nose on it.
August: 12:42
Let me pull this up here real quick but we really don't know where the actual bourbon comes from comes from. They're just cutting it with local water.
Wayne: 12:51
They bring it in way over-cooked.
Mickey Lyons: 12:53
Cut it with local water and age it on premise.
August: 12:56
It comes from the Some of these local distilleries, and I've witnessed this process. They'll make their white lightning and they'll age it in the barrels and then they pull it out and go oh hell, no. And they go buy gallons and gallons of water from Kroger and just cut it until it gets to a proof where it floats right, they go. Okay, now we'll sell it.
Matt Fox: 13:14
Especially people that don't bottle it. It comes from Rosendale, which is actually the origin of the pure limestone water used to proof all of their bourbon that they have.
August: 13:23
Mineral-rich water is not a bad idea. I always use spring water when I make wine. I don't use distilled water, I use spring water. I want more minerals in it. It just helps with the flavor profiles. So I get that it's a very generic label.
Jamie: 13:38
Yeah, you're getting the caramel, vanilla, the bourbon smells, I agree. Getting any fruity in there at all? A little bit B-A-N-A-N-A that Jack Daniels bottle and bond the 100 proof Jack Daniels crazy bananas.
Mickey Lyons: 13:58
It's just all bananas.
Jamie: 14:00
To me it's just 100% bananas. That doesn't suck. It's not a bad characteristic.
August: 14:05
I'm still raving about that. Sinatra Select that my brother got me.
Matt Fox: 14:10
Oh, that Sinatra Select is so good, what a great bottle of booze. I'm so happy I drank almost all my bottle that I had, except for this much.
August: 14:17
I mean the bottle. You think. Oh, it's the presentations for all the prices. No, it's really good.
Matt Fox: 14:21
The way they score those, the barrels themselves, was for the Sinatra Select, because they score it sideways as well, so it gets more of a surface area out of the barrel itself. So good, good stuff.
August: 14:33
All right. So anyone who's out there for my 51st birthday, I would love.
Mickey Lyons: 14:37
Another bottle of.
August: 14:38
Sinatra Select.
Mickey Lyons: 14:39
I'll take a bottle of Chartreuse.
August: 14:43
So the green Chimol. We'll get to that in a minute.
Matt Fox: 14:46
So this is like a daily drinker. This kind of reminds me of what I would use for a daily drinker.
August: 14:52
Daily drinkers are coming down to price point for us grown-ups. What is the price point?
Matt Fox: 14:59
My price point would be for my daily drinker. I'm probably looking at about $50.
August: 15:03
Whoa banker dude.
Mickey Lyons: 15:05
Shut up the other journalists over here.
Matt Fox: 15:09
Public officials are looking for something as our palates have developed, we've come to want something more, so we always have to look for that next price point up. But this bottle is coming around $75.
Mickey Lyons: 15:25
Nope, yeah, that's the Brooklyn price right there.
Wayne: 15:28
That is.
Mickey Lyons: 15:28
A weekly drinker or a weekender. It's a brooklyn price, right. There is what that is.
Jamie: 15:30
A weekly drinker, yeah, and this there's a, there's a whole ton of expressions, uh from and this is like their, their starter. Okay, uh, the other ones go up from there. I do believe. So, yeah, but uh, so yeah, I you know, I read a couple things. It's like oh, it's a 10 year and it tastes like a 20 year.
Matt Fox: 15:48
I actually smell a little ethanol and they're saying that you shouldn't get a smell of ethanol, am I not?
Jamie: 15:53
Am I Are you at all. I'm getting a little I thought I did on the second sip, I did on the second.
August: 15:57
What's the my favorite new line for real ethanol Ethanol, cornflakes.
Matt Fox: 16:11
It, it's just it. It drinks just like I'm what I'm used to.
August: 16:13
There's nothing really unique. It's very light for me it's also a light taste to me. It tastes thin on my on my face, thin on my face well, it's because we start.
Jamie: 16:19
You know, we started. We got all those high octane ones in dad's closet over there, all I have was one sip of appletons I had like two ounces of appletons.
Mickey Lyons: 16:26
That's all yeah, it's all. Middle, there's no front, there's no endons, that's all. Yeah, it's all middle.
August: 16:30
There's no front, there's no end. Yeah, all middle, that's a good way to describe it. It's just kind of thin.
Matt Fox: 16:33
Yep, I like that. I couldn't get on board with that yeah.
Jamie: 16:37
I wasn't ecstatic with it. That's why I brought it in. So no, I got it as a gift. I've seen it on the shelf. I've wanted to get a bottle to do and talk about. Yeah, and I was so glad I got it as a gift.
August: 16:50
And then I was trying it but it was the holiday and I had, you know, I was, I was hitting it pretty hard with other things, so I wanted to give it a fair shake. You let it sit in your mouth, you get all 90 proof of it, 91 proof of it. My favorite ones of these don't taste like they're as high as they are.
Jamie: 17:08
Yeah, you know the better ones.
August: 17:10
This one. It tastes like it's 90 something.
Jamie: 17:13
So I didn't say anything. I didn't say that I wasn't enamored with it because I didn't want to taint your, because I'm so susceptible to suggestions, so I was curious what you guys were going to think. It's fine.
August: 17:21
I mean, but I wouldn't go. I thought it was like 60 something here, jamie Widow, jane or Stapleton's whiskey.
Jamie: 17:30
I might actually go Stapleton's.
Mickey Lyons: 17:33
There, you go. Because it's cheaper? Yeah, for $75. You get a case on a desert island.
Jamie: 17:40
It just washes up with you.
August: 17:41
I'm going to go with that Just because it's higher proof, yeah All right, bury it somewhere.
Matt Fox: 17:47
No one can find it.
Mickey Lyons: 17:50
Okay, proof, but yeah, yeah, all right, bury it somewhere. No one can find it.
Matt Fox: 17:51
Okay, I'm gonna go with aggressively mediocre on this. Aggressively mediocre yeah, we need to add that to the kill. Mary, screw, yeah, yeah aggressively meeting.
Mickey Lyons: 17:59
Yeah this isn't sponsored by anyone, is it?
Matt Fox: 18:03
no, no we're working on it. Can you tell Apparently?
Jamie: 18:07
we'll be winning a game.
Matt Fox: 18:10
No, we have a rating system, Mickey. It's called Kill Marry Screw. So kill it. It's dead to me. I'll never do it again. Marry it, Buy it, Take it home or screw around with it when you're out and about. Oh good, I like that it all depends on how much Widow Jane everything, so I would not marry. I would not marry this.
Jamie: 18:31
I'm glad I don't have a bottle on the shelf. It'll probably last, because I get bourbon friends that come over and then they're like oh, you got that. I'm like try anything you want. You know anything. You want Japanese Blantons, all right. The old Fitzgerald yeah, that one's in the gun locker. That's kept in the gun locker. That's kept in the gun locker. No, no For guests, everything's fair game.
August: 18:54
We all know what a gun guy Jamie Flanagan is Alright. Well, I'm going to let our palates settle here.
Jamie: 19:02
A little sippy. Sippy is something else.
August: 19:04
Oh, it's a breakdown of audio technology.
Mickey Lyons: 19:06
That's what happens when we give you the baby mic. Yes, I'm licking. It's a breakdown of audio technology.
August: 19:10
That's what happens when we give you the baby mic. Yeah, sorry, mickey, all right, the cord went underneath.
Mickey Lyons: 19:15
Yeah, come on, man.
Wayne: 19:15
You invited me. He's busting my chops.
August: 19:17
So let's get those glasses over here. And while I just get ready for this stuff, Mickey, you got an adventure coming up. I do yeah we're not going to see you during the Labor Day Festival, because it's adventure, oh darn, oh darn.
Matt Fox: 19:30
She's so broken up about it.
Mickey Lyons: 19:31
Tell us about what's really coming up for you here, in addition to being a archaeologist, can now add the title of Lake Lorien to my job title that's Lake Lorien that's the official job title.
Jamie: 19:42
Lake Lorien, the lore of the Michigan Lakes.
Mickey Lyons: 19:44
Yes, of the Great Lakes. So I am the ship's lecturer on a cruise ship around the Great Lakes for two months.
August: 19:50
Oh my goodness, Give it to a woman that you hired to lecture you.
Mickey Lyons: 19:54
The other two are men.
Jamie: 19:56
Wait for that, oh yeah.
Matt Fox: 20:00
So do you get to wear that little white cap and everything as you're doing the? I don't like that cap.
Jamie: 20:03
You have to go around and go. Hey, sailor.
Mickey Lyons: 20:06
Oh, the cruise director.
Wayne: 20:07
Yeah, that's a different person.
Mickey Lyons: 20:08
All right, darn I don't have to lead the bingo.
Jamie: 20:12
Bingo on the Lido deck.
Mickey Lyons: 20:13
Yeah, I just do, like a, you know, a PowerPoint every day, you know into the Great Lakes, most of the folks that do this cruise.
August: 20:21
What is the cruise? Tell us what the cruise is and what's going on.
Mickey Lyons: 20:24
So it's for victory, victory cruise lines. And it is a 200 passenger, about 80 crew, not as fancy as, say, the Viking ships, and it's a nine-day, 10-day trip, nine days on the Great Lakes.
Matt Fox: 20:41
Wow.
Mickey Lyons: 20:45
Chicago to Toronto. The passengers take, you know, chicago to Toronto and they stop at Escanaba, sault, ste Marie, mackinac, detroit, cleveland, toronto, niagara, yeah, so when you're in Escanaba, I heard Jeff Daniels comes and gives everybody a haircut. I hope so, I very much hope. So I don't know, I don't think he plays acoustic guitar and talks about how much he loves the tigers and lions.
Jamie: 21:09
Yeah, or that or that, or that or that, I don't know. I'll try to make up something ridiculous.
August: 21:16
How many, how many trips around are you doing?
Mickey Lyons: 21:19
I think it's 10. Wow.
Jamie: 21:20
We got 10 laps nine or 10 laps. Yeah.
Mickey Lyons: 21:23
Yeah, so I will be back in Detroit like for a half a day every nine or ten days or so have you taken a test cruise?
Jamie: 21:29
have you taken? Yes, I've never done it for this long.
Mickey Lyons: 21:32
I've done it two separate times for three weeks at a time. Okay, like basically two trips.
Jamie: 21:37
No, I mean, but this particular journey. The Michigan Great Lake is this year. Have you been on the, the path that?
Mickey Lyons: 21:42
you're going to do before Escanaba is different.
Jamie: 21:46
This year they added that that yeah. But cruising the Great Lakes is a newer adventure, yes, it's a newer one, but it's also an old one. Like.
Mickey Lyons: 21:54
I've got. I'm obsessed with Michigan travel history. I love Michigan.
Jamie: 21:58
Yeah, have you been to the salt mines?
Mickey Lyons: 22:00
No, have you. Yeah, yeah, jealous. Oh, it was cool. Anyway, all right.
Jamie: 22:03
So old? Oh, it was cool Anyway.
Wayne: 22:05
All right.
Jamie: 22:06
So old people talk Right yeah.
Wayne: 22:09
All right.
Mickey Lyons: 22:10
Yeah. But cruises were a thing, yeah, like all right, we're all old enough to remember the Boblo boat, right.
Jamie: 22:18
Sure, absolutely so.
Mickey Lyons: 22:18
That was just one of the different day cruises that you could do. Right, you could take a day cruise to Cleveland and then they did also have like week long cruises around the Great Lakes.
August: 22:27
I'd take a slow boat to Cleveland for, you know, a weekend, you know oh sure Cleveland. Steamer.
Wayne: 22:33
Yeah, Wayne's here everybody.
Jamie: 22:37
Dang, that's it, the sniping from the second shooter.
Wayne: 22:41
Grassy knoll.
August: 22:44
All right.
Mickey Lyons: 22:45
So yeah. So all right, but the recent is a newer thing in the last, like two, three years, right yeah, last um they're trying to deepen some ports to get some bigger ships in, and what have you?
August: 22:58
definitely yeah, the first time I did it was in 2016, and I think that was the first year in like 50 or 60 years, since the 60s all right ships and these aren't like carnival cruises with go-karts and shit on them.
Mickey Lyons: 23:10
No, there's not even a pool on this one.
Jamie: 23:14
Are you sleeping on the boat? I am, I have my own cabin.
Mickey Lyons: 23:17
I do not have to have a hammock. I made sure of that.
Jamie: 23:21
And the guests sleep on the boat. You're not getting off at a hotel.
Mickey Lyons: 23:24
There's a couple, couple of nights, like when we're going up lake michigan and when we're going up or down lake huron we have a full sea night and sea day lake day.
Jamie: 23:35
Yeah, so you give a like oh, we're in lake superior, we're in this part of lake superior, and these are all the boats that are the bottom of this yep, and I make right here everybody leaves that cruise with the wreck of the edmund finch gerald stuck in their head. I love that. That just moves me. I mean they're decent-sized ships.
August: 23:54
I can't put that up on the thing We'll put it in the liner notes. Yes, do you have any? Is it still bookable? Is it something that you have a website for?
Mickey Lyons: 24:04
I think it's VictoryCruiseLinescom.
August: 24:07
If only I had something in my hand that could tell me that.
Jamie: 24:08
Yeah, that you could look it up. If there's only some sort of device.
August: 24:11
There's only some way.
Matt Fox: 24:12
Oh, it's just this computer Victorycruiselinescom.
August: 24:15
I love that.
Jamie: 24:16
I love Michigan, I love Detroit. I love Michigan.
Wayne: 24:23
People are like you we need to get out. You can just go.
August: 24:26
Detroit needs me.
Jamie: 24:27
I need the city. There's so many things that I just love about.
August: 24:31
Michigan, niagara Falls, mackinac Island, chicago.
Jamie: 24:34
I love this thought.
Matt Fox: 24:36
I'm going to be honest with you guys. Personally, I've never been on a cruise.
Jamie: 24:40
No, Colleen's anti-cruise. I'm not anti-cruise.
Mickey Lyons: 24:43
I would do it unless I was getting paid.
August: 24:45
Yeah, I know you were my brother's about to go on the Greece and Italy one, so would this be a good?
Matt Fox: 24:52
For someone who's never been on a cruise. Would this be a good thing to do first before you get on the big cruise boat, or should you just rip the band-aid off and get on the big boat?
Mickey Lyons: 25:00
That I don't know, because this is the only one I've ever been on. This is an Aruba.
August: 25:03
It's a whole different kind of cruise.
Wayne: 25:05
I would guess, if you're nervous about I'm not nervous Well alright, I would think for your first cruise you might want to try a three-day Bahamas or something. Yeah, also like Make sure you're not seasick, okay.
Mickey Lyons: 25:18
I don't know that we're the target audience because we've seen most of the Great Lakes, so the idea of paying a lot of money and taking two days to get to Cleveland seems a little bit, because Cleveland rocks.
Jamie: 25:30
I don't mean to leave, but I can drive there in three hours You're going to Cleveland On purpose.
August: 25:36
That's the old days Going to see the.
Matt Fox: 25:38
Christmas Story House okay, to Detroit.
Wayne: 25:42
No, not Detroit. No, anything but that, anything but that.
Jamie: 25:48
It's like a fried movie Rock and roll fame there. What Alright, the Christmas story was great.
August: 25:55
I had a blast in Cleveland. Cleveland's a great town until you run into an Ohio State fan who's an asshole and they ruin everything.
Jamie: 26:03
You want my favorite Cleveland story? Go for it. So it was early in my teaching career. I wasn't even. I wasn't even teaching full time and our friend Pat Akerley, DJ Tool, was teaching and they were doing. So. You want to be a rock and roll teacher summer workshop. It was a week long conference at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Jamie: 26:25
So no brainer development you know you, you would take classes. You you'd had the instructors and the curators from the rock hall, uh, and there was an adjunct from the uh, uh, uh, uh, the ohio, uh, catahoga, catahoga community college. Um, you take class. There was a one-day class at the cajahoga community college and you could pay for like three credits or just get a certificate, um. So you know, I was like, oh, I'm just, we have to help pay a couple extra bucks and get the three credits. But we went and it was so much fun and we just tore up Cleveland and Pat and I were kind of notorious for having a good time.
August: 27:04
Not you. Yeah, we're both DJs.
Jamie: 27:06
So we had a whole DJ rig in our hotel room and then we had a mirror ball and I set a mirror ball up in the room right Trouble Sure that hotel level and then, yeah, well, you know it was there. It was amazing. We set it up Middle of the day and we went out Shenanigans, right. We came home and we're walking down the street and it was nighttime at that point, so the mirror ball was lighting up the whole street.
Mickey Lyons: 27:32
The windows.
Jamie: 27:32
Open up the window and our mirror ball with the, you know, the pro, dj, light and spotlight. And so all of a sudden, we were, we were those guys. For the rest of the week it's like, oh, here comes those guys and uh, well, guess what everybody, guess what room everybody was in all week long. Yeah, that was my favorite favorite, uh, cincinnati story, all right. So what do we got? Uh, chartreuse, right? Oh, should Kermit, should we sing a little Kermit, it's not easy, being green it's not easy.
August: 28:05
You do the good song. You do it good man, you do the rainbow connection, the lovers the dreamers and me, what, what.
Jamie: 28:18
You guys didn't know I had that in me, did you? He does a good Kermit.
Matt Fox: 28:22
Can you do a Liam Neeson from Taken?
August: 28:26
Whatever? I have a certain set of skills. Skills I do.
Wayne: 28:31
Alright, thank you for that I will find you, kermit. We haven't even started on the chartreuse, yet he doesn't do that as Yoda.
August: 28:40
It's the same voice. I will find you. I have a certain set of skills I do.
Matt Fox: 28:41
We haven't even started on the chartreuse yet, all right, he doesn't do that as Yoda. It's the same voice, it's older.
Jamie: 28:45
I will find you. I have a certain set of skills. I do so. A spirit with 130 botanicals? Yes, made it green, made by monks 1607 recipe been made since like 1770.
August: 29:00
It's a thing, Monks it's a locked up70. It's a thing Monk's, it's a locked up recipe. It's a thing. There's yellow chartreuse, there's different age chartreuses. This is the basic and you can't even get the basic and you're supposed to just sip it. It's a sipper, it's a sipper. There are some cocktails that are made. I will sacrifice a little bit more for the famous last word, which was Detroit Athletic Club.
Mickey Lyons: 29:20
DAC yes, dac 1916, discovered by a Seattle bartender in the early 2000s, brought it back to popularity.
August: 29:30
Chartreuse Luxardo Cherry Liqueur Gin, which we got to grab some Gin and Lime and it's just so this. I recommend having a sip and then breathing through your nose, breathing through your mouth and getting a whole feel for it. There are a bazillion herbs in this thing, wow.
Jamie: 29:50
It's jumping around back and forth across the tongue Cardamom cinnamon.
Mickey Lyons: 29:56
Yeah.
August: 29:57
It's all over your mouth, isn't it?
Jamie: 30:00
We're making the jelly bean chewing noise, honestly, yeah.
August: 30:04
The jelly beans and whiskey was a weird one Definitely licorice. But as it sits in your mouth you get more flavors after the first sip it's just amazing Wow.
Matt Fox: 30:16
On the nose I was kind of afraid at the very beginning, just on the nose, I don't know about anyone else, but I was like, was like, oh, what am I getting myself into here? But then it sits on the pallet you're like difficult to find.
August: 30:25
Right impossible, impossible to find yeah, I mean, it was mrs vino and jen cherry, two of our liquor people were trying to like give me substitutes. Oh, try this or try this I'm like I don't know, I don't, I don't even wanna. You know, this is quite fascinating and it just gets better.
Jamie: 30:41
And if it lingers, in their sweets and there's, I think it's the most fascinating spirit in the world.
August: 30:48
I think it's. This is the basic one too. There's other ones that are supposed to be different. I haven't been able to afford any of them.
Mickey Lyons: 30:54
Right, there's there's a lot of the monks pumping the brakes so they have a hard time getting the botanicals. They announced a few years ago that, first of all, there are fewer monks in the world.
August: 31:06
These days, but also I mean people like blowjobs, All the distilling I'm not going to make that comment?
Mickey Lyons: 31:15
I'm not going to make that comment. They also said all of the production and the popularity of it was getting in the way of their life as meditative monks.
Jamie: 31:24
Okay, it just became so popular and so crazy, especially with COVID. All the home bartenders, right, right. Okay, I can see that. Well, you know. So why not outsource it? Then is it, it's not what it is.
August: 31:38
The recipe is locked up tighter than Dr Pepper.
Mickey Lyons: 31:42
It's a thing Fortox like right, yeah, only one, two or three of the monks at a time know the recipe then there's a yellow one too.
August: 31:50
Wow, and I've had the yellow, fascinating it. To me it's not as herbal, when I remember it was a little lighter, which for some people that's what they want.
Mickey Lyons: 31:58
This is too much. Yeah, this can be way too much for people.
August: 32:02
I I get it the way too much is what I love about it personally, wayne have you ever had this before?
Wayne: 32:07
No, how are you feeling? It's amazing. My initial reaction was it felt like somebody stuck a candy cane up my nose, but then I was getting a licorice and so many other things I can't identify. It's crazy.
Matt Fox: 32:26
Yeah.
Wayne: 32:28
It's not bad crazy. I don't know how to process it.
Matt Fox: 32:32
Would you have more?
Wayne: 32:32
I'm going to I would, I would.
Jamie: 32:35
I would as a Because, when, yeah, when would you want to, when would you want to try this? The?
Wayne: 32:42
high clear, if you want.
Jamie: 32:45
When would you want to have this after dinner? When is the proper time Like? Treat it like an aperitif almost that's what.
Mickey Lyons: 32:55
I was thinking For the longest time. Every small monastery, every small farmhouse, every small town had their own recipe of sort of alpine appetites and digestives. So it was in the tradition of many of the others, and now all those are coming back, but not like chartreuse.
Matt Fox: 33:19
This is just okay, I'm going to use the word immaculate, because the monks made it.
August: 33:24
Have you Give that lime juice a sniff.
Mickey Lyons: 33:26
See if it's usable, we're using dollar store lime juice hey.
Matt Fox: 33:31
Welcome to the man cave, Mickey.
Mickey Lyons: 33:34
This is sacrilege Against the monks.
Jamie: 33:38
Well, we got lemon. We got fresh lemons, but that's not the right.
August: 33:40
The lime really isn't the kicker in this drink.
Mickey Lyons: 33:43
No, it's really not. It's not really the important part. I can't figure out how to get it.
Jamie: 33:45
So do we want the lemon instead or not? No, all right.
Mickey Lyons: 33:51
All right. Oh, I was trying to twist off the top. Give it a sniff.
Matt Fox: 33:58
So Jamie.
August: 33:58
Oh, I was going to squeeze that it's all you need.
Matt Fox: 34:07
So, jamie, you still got a little chartreuse left, and are you savoring it? I am. I'm enjoying it. I finished mine. I just couldn't help it. It was amazing and I'm very happy that you brought this in tonight, august, and shared it with us.
August: 34:24
So am I. I wanted you guys to try this stuff. I rave about it all the time.
Jamie: 34:28
Thank you for sharing.
Wayne: 34:29
We're going to make a last word. You're only going to get a little bit. Did you shoot it? I know I took a much bigger sip and I don't think I should have Hello.
August: 34:40
Wow, but I don't think I should have Hello Now. Just let your mouth enjoy that, because it's going to sit there.
Jamie: 34:46
It is going to sit there. Nikki have you had the high clear?
Mickey Lyons: 34:49
I have not actually.
August: 34:51
This is the hidden hidden gem.
Wayne: 34:52
Yeah, we had.
Jamie: 34:57
Lord Carnarvon.
Matt Fox: 34:59
Lord Carnarvon joined us on the man cave one afternoon. Nice, do you?
Mickey Lyons: 35:02
know the story I mean no, okay, go ahead, jamie.
Jamie: 35:07
So there's a cat. His name is Adam von Gutken, and you'd think he was like some Austrian lord himself, but he's just this dude from Connecticut who's a brand rep.
Wayne: 35:20
But very, very cool. He was a brand rep, but very, very cool. He's a brand rep from Connecticut.
August: 35:26
He's a native on douchebag. What do you have up your sleeve, douchebag?
Jamie: 35:31
And he wanted to launch a brand. He wanted to do his own brand, but he wanted to do a gin because bourbons were just overdone and he wanted to do a traditional London dry. And so he was looking for somebody to partner with in England and he came across the idea of Lord and Lady Carnarvon, who are the curators. They live at. Highclere Castle is where they filmed Downton Abbey and Lord Carnarvon Abbey, and Lord Carnarvon was in and they worked and worked and worked on the recipe.
Jamie: 36:07
You better get your chartreuse before I give you some unless you want a stronger last word than.
Mickey Lyons: 36:10
I do, you know what.
August: 36:12
You've had a last word before you know what you're getting into.
Matt Fox: 36:16
So, lord Carnarvon, it was his great, great grandfather who helped find King Tut's tomb 102 years ago, so he died soon after from the curse he did he did.
Jamie: 36:26
No, he died because he was like an idiot.
Mickey Lyons: 36:29
Was he the one that cut himself, shaving or something?
Matt Fox: 36:32
No, no, no so. But you know, fast forward to now, in the basement of the Highclere Castle itself is an exact replica of King Tut's tomb, oh man. So they'll do tastings down there, because Lord Carnarvon is a big bourbon guy himself. But they'll do tastings on there. Lady Carnarvon does a lot of work around the estate itself. They actually distill this. It's the oldest whiskey gin distillery in England. Itself that's on the estate.
August: 36:55
So this is the two ounces of chartreuse, two ounces of the high castle, high Claire castle, and two ounces of chartreuse two ounces of the high castle, the high Claire castle, and two ounces of Luxardo. Wow, okay, I put a little splash of lime in there. Normally you put a Luxardo cherry when you get the cocktail and they shake it up so you get the you want the little shards of ice usually floating in it.
August: 37:11
You know, that's how a good you can get a good last word at like the. I know that the bar at the Godfrey Hotel. They have cases of this there, so you get a good last word there. I know that I think it's Sons of Guns I think it was the mutiny on Verner that I got a last word in the last six months. I know you can get a last word at the Painted Lady in Hamtramck. Those places you can get, I know those people have at least one bottle left Right. Yeah, this is the event at the DAC. That Seattle Bartender pulled it out in the 2000s and brought it back and it is a thing. Well, August.
Jamie: 37:53
thank you for sharing Cheers. Thank you for bringing that party to the table. It has a definitive chartreuse.
August: 38:07
Yeah, I do love the cherry liqueur part of it, though, too, and honestly it is missing a little something without that floating ice on the top.
Mickey Lyons: 38:15
And without that acid bite of the fresh lime juice.
Jamie: 38:19
There's a viscosity with the Luxardo. Oh yeah, it sweetens it up for sure. Yeah, there's a viscosity with the Luxardo. Oh yeah, it sweetens it up for sure, yeah but there's a viscosity, there's a stickiness to it that sticks a little more. I like that.
Wayne: 38:33
Wayne's looking at the legs.
Jamie: 38:34
Oh yeah, it's nutty. Oh yeah, the Luxardo is the thing about. The High Clear has great legs too.
Jamie: 38:41
Most gins don't really have a finish. They don't linger. But Lord Carnarvon was a big whiskey drinker. He's a big bourbon fan and he wanted something with a finish, so they ended up. High Clear is known for their oats. The oats grown on the grounds feed most of the livestock in England and they put oats in the basket and the oats add this oiliness to it. That is a different. Some of the other botanicals are grown on the high-cluster crops. It's a nice mix.
August: 39:12
I'm going to take whatever water I'm smelling.
Jamie: 39:16
I'm smelling Wheeze, the juice there. Squeeze every last little bit out of that.
August: 39:23
People thought they can't understand Kendrick Lamar during the Super Bowl. They didn't watch Encino man Because you don't know about wheezing the juice. Don't be crushing on my cruise or whatever.
Jamie: 39:37
How so hardcore? Oh man, that is good yeah.
August: 39:42
It is good. Yeah, it is. This is 80% of a perfect cocktail.
Matt Fox: 39:47
Yep, yep, that's fair. So, mickey, when is your cruise coming?
Mickey Lyons: 39:52
up. The cruise itself goes all summer. I am on, so there are two ships, three of us lecturers.
Matt Fox: 39:58
Okay.
Mickey Lyons: 39:59
So, Can they request your ship.
August: 40:02
I mean mean and they can request only boss lady lectures me and book that yes, yeah although the other two lecturers are great as well.
Mickey Lyons: 40:09
Sure, um, but I am on, uh, first one ship from to july 15th to august 4th or something like that, and then I get off in Milwaukee and I get off in Chicago, get two days to make my way up to Milwaukee and get on the other ship, and I'm on that until September 10th. So it's two months Cool.
Matt Fox: 40:34
That's great. Have fun.
August: 40:36
You do a lot of writing for the two socialist mayors.
Wayne: 40:41
We're not worthy. We're not worthy, we're not worthy.
August: 40:45
I didn't want Milwaukee, but it's on my list.
Jamie: 40:47
Milwaukee.
Mickey Lyons: 40:48
It's great. My sister went to college there, that's right, she went to Marquette.
August: 40:51
Marquette, yes, so she wouldn't let me change the channel one day.
Mickey Lyons: 40:53
Nope, she's very passionate, very passionate about Marquette basketball.
Jamie: 40:57
Yep, our Detroit magazine, the mainstay of your writing. Um, is there a like, a, a sub stack or a tinder or something that people can? Follow yes and only fans is there is there a one-stop shop that people can find, like a leapfrog into your writing yeah, um, I actually mickey lionscom oh, fair play. Okay, it's my website, all right, and that's got links too.
Mickey Lyons: 41:24
I do. I also do uh which I have not updated in far too long, uh prohibitiondetroitcom.
August: 41:30
So I've been on one of those tours with her.
Jamie: 41:33
She's written yeah, I want to do the drunken bus tour yeah does calvin um? Is calvin one of the drivers or something on that he?
Mickey Lyons: 41:44
I thought he was calvin, used to be one of the guys podcast calvin.
Jamie: 41:47
Yeah, I don't know that he's there anymore oh, I haven't talked to him in a minute.
Mickey Lyons: 41:51
He was there for a while.
Wayne: 41:51
It's covid screwed everything yeah, yeah, so damn, covid damn covid, damn covid, looking back, I don't think because I, I like him and I yeah, you're right, I, you and he were there.
Mickey Lyons: 42:03
We weren't there at the same time, sadly, but I want to do that.
Jamie: 42:08
The Drunks of Antiquity tour I want to do that. It's a good one.
Wayne: 42:14
And it goes to historic bars and maybe someday- you can be part of a future Drunks of Antiquity tour, maybe you can be part of a future.
Jamie: 42:21
Drunks of Antiquity tour. Maybe you can be one of the stops.
Matt Fox: 42:23
You know there's Jamie Fleming.
Mickey Lyons: 42:28
I will say we did because I used to work for the Detroit Boss Company. I used to be their tour director.
August: 42:34
How I first met you when I came blazing in there. Who runs this place? You owe me money With this police chief, with an armed man what's?
Jamie: 42:44
what's that little? Yeah, um, but we had a dot.
Mickey Lyons: 42:48
We also had for a little while a dive bars tour yeah, this is you know, 2012, 13, 14 yeah so we had. I don't know if you guys know frank woodman frank the caveman, caveman, bam bam, caveman, bam man, great man he was the guide all right and it was woodman's dive bar, tour of detroit and it was fantastic frank is a legend in the hamptrack community and he moved out.
August: 43:15
I know, moved like medicine, nights or something. What is?
Jamie: 43:17
that one bar State Fair in Woodward. It's the Stonehouse.
Mickey Lyons: 43:23
Stonehouse, stonehouse. I have heard rumors that they are reopening.
August: 43:29
Oh my God. I know that there's someone in St Croix Shores. Someone has the sign Stonehouse. The guy who restores neon and he had his garage open and he was working on it. He was restoring the Stonehouse sign that Kevin Stripling offered him. Like basically his only is like you know, I have a niece. She's a virgin. You can have her, if I can have that sign. Oh my God, so there was. It was like nope, Repairing it for a reason, yeah.
Jamie: 43:55
Very bizarre place. Yes office building with its own little parking lot, and for a while the uaw owned it and they ran their radio network out of it. It was the ie america radio. Oh shit.
August: 44:14
Peter worthy was the main host, that's socialist stuff back in the day.
Jamie: 44:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah so. But they were, they funded it and it was like uh, we had animal talk on there, so we did animal talk from there. Whoa for a while, for like a long time I still got my gate key. I don't know if it still works, but uh. So we're right, literally straight across the street from the. The stone house is right there and and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go have a beer. And I went and I sat down. I'm like this is a really bad idea.
Wayne: 44:43
So the guy used to run that yes, with the rocket fuel mike.
Mickey Lyons: 44:48
Uh, mike has since passed away, but that was uh, that was not uh.
Jamie: 44:54
It reminded me the house band.
August: 44:56
There was a band called the immortal winos of soul yeah, yes, okay, the immortal winos of soul, and that is the best band name.
Matt Fox: 45:03
Kevin stripling, one of my best friends, was the bass player in that band the whole time. They were the house band there you want stories of stonehouse?
August: 45:06
we was the bass player in that band the whole time. They were the house band there. You want stories of Stonehouse? We'll bring in Stripling.
Jamie: 45:11
That is a Drunks of Antiquity stop. That's a Detroit gem. It was interesting as hell. I mean I didn't get beat up or anything. I went back for another beer another time, but it was a unique experience for sure. But it reminded, reminded me my dad.
August: 45:28
um, it's irish guy, right, and and so see yep and uh, much like me and there's like on eight mile mud farmer there's uh.
Jamie: 45:38
There's a bar just uh east of andyke. It was the friendly sons of uh ireland, the friendly sons oh yeah, yeah, he went in. He's like, yeah, they're not that friendly.
Mickey Lyons: 45:48
No, that was an IRA bar. That's why, yeah, friendly Sons of St Patrick, oh yeah, friendly Sons of St Patrick.
Jamie: 45:56
That's what it was. Yeah, friendly Sons, because he's an Irish guy and we lived on Nevada. That was a.
August: 46:02
Northern Ireland bar. And then we moved up to have you not seen?
Jamie: 46:06
Van Dyke and out of drive which was seven and a half, and so you know you would drive past. You do the turnaround and you see it right there all the time.
Matt Fox: 46:12
Friendly says where do you think they got the idea for Boondock Saints from? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jamie: 46:17
So the friendly says, oh, he goes well, they're probably all going to stop in't a pint guy, but he was all stopping for a beer and he stops in and he was like they were not friendly.
August: 46:30
They thought you were just listening. You're there to listen and we're.
Jamie: 46:34
Catholics.
Wayne: 46:35
We're Irish.
Mickey Lyons: 46:36
Friendly sons. To be a member you had to have a, you had to be confirmed Catholic. You basically had to get your church to send your confirmation.
Matt Fox: 46:45
Proof of circumcision.
Mickey Lyons: 46:46
You've got to get your church to send your confirmation Proof of circumcision. You got a real Catholic.
Wayne: 46:50
I just went to that bar mitzvah.
Jamie: 46:53
My friend at a bar mitzvah and I was like are they going to do the circumcision right there?
Wayne: 46:58
Do we have to watch?
Jamie: 46:59
What I don't understand? And he's like Jamie, stop.
Wayne: 47:04
I go.
Jamie: 47:04
I know I'm just being culturally insensitive.
Wayne: 47:07
It's what I do. Well, we can't Because you were doing it for a while. We have a license to do that. We can now.
Jamie: 47:11
We're allowed. We're allowed.
Mickey Lyons: 47:13
It's a podcast we can be culturally insensitive to a point.
Jamie: 47:17
Anyway. Again, August, thanks for sharing that.
Matt Fox: 47:21
So the more I drink on this august, the more I think I may have had this before. I just don't remember. That's how your, your memory will come back you've had something before and you try it again and you, but you don't remember you had it, you've never ordered this in a bar no I've given it to you on christmas.
August: 47:36
It's as, unless you knew somebody who was a chartreuse person who said try this, you never would have had this I do, but that's where it comes from I knew chartreuse people who were like we had it at the bar at Whiskey.
Matt Fox: 47:46
I just feel like I've had it.
August: 47:47
I'm like I want to try this. Whoa, this is some shit.
Matt Fox: 47:51
I just feel like I've had this drink before. I just can't remember when.
August: 47:55
It is absolute blackout juice.
Matt Fox: 47:59
Okay, that's fair you can.
August: 48:03
Chartreuse drunk is a weird drunk I've never in the history of doing this show. I don't think I've ever poured a one ounce shot out of a jigger for people I've measured cocktails for two parts. One part stuff. I've never rationed my stuff. This is not going in the boss's closet this is going home.
Mickey Lyons: 48:26
Matt, you hold his arms. I'm going to just See how big he is.
August: 48:30
He knows where I'm going to get away.
Mickey Lyons: 48:33
I'm going to escape we live like a block and a half from each other.
August: 48:36
Yes, I know where to go.
Jamie: 48:37
Yes, you are in the neighborhood.
August: 48:39
Yeah, Actually it this is fun.
Matt Fox: 48:44
I really appreciate this. Thank you Mickey, thank you Wayne.
Wayne: 48:50
Thank you for having me.
August: 48:52
Welcome back After all these years.
Jamie: 48:55
Well, because we're over 200.
Matt Fox: 48:59
It only took you 206 shows.
Wayne: 49:01
See you for episode 412. 412. Why not just go 420?.
Matt Fox: 49:08
Let's do this more often. 412. Why not just go 420? Let's do this more often, please do.
Jamie: 49:13
All the podcast things in all the podcast places.
August: 49:15
Like and subscribe to those things. Mickeylionscom. Yes, put that down. Matt'sfriendwaynecom.
Matt Fox: 49:24
Hey, is that available, oh God wwwDoesThisLookInfectedwaynecom.
Jamie: 49:28
Hey, is that available? Oh God? Wwwdoesthislookinfectedtoyoucom.
Matt Fox: 49:33
That over there, that's Jamie Flanagan.
Jamie: 49:35
Oh, that's August Kitschleg, sexy Matt Fox is right next to me, Sexy, sexy.
August: 49:39
Thank you guys. All right, cheers, Cheers everyone.
